The truth is the truth

[Mikoo]

Just telling it as I see it.

Me too.

Did I say they did not have them?

You don't seem much interested in the absolute moral and social decline of 'your' country.

But most of the world does not have the US try to tell their gov what they can or cannot do.

I agree. Most of the world does not have the US trying to tell their gov what they can or cannot do. But fortunately for the US we have you and your

We do not see the need to try and control others.

You have no power to try and influence the world. That's the reason.

Only those that are insecure do that.

Only those weak, insecure countries complain about other countries that can.

Ah the arrogance of the US.

Ah the jealousy of the weak, superior (in their own minds), US dependent Canadians.

The US made the mistake of allowing those millions into their country just as Canada and Europe have done and we are all paying the price for doing so.

Agree.

Yes I agree

 

[Silverhair]

Truth hurts

@Mikoo I do not have a problem seeing the issues that we have facing us. I am realistic about what is going on but many in the US have blinders on or just avoid the truth.

LOL. You really like to assume things.

Well from your responses you do not like that I question what the US has done and says they would like to do. So not assuming just responding to the posts.What would that be?

I have and continue to serve my country for coming up on 41 years.

OK so you do it one way and I do it another.

 

[Silverhair]

You don't seem much interested in the absolute moral and social decline of 'your' country.

You base that on what comment that I made?

I agree. Most of the world does not have the US trying to tell their gov what they can or cannot do. But fortunately for the US we have you and your

I notice that Trum* thinks he can tell NATO members what they can do.

You have no power to try and influence the world. That's the reason.

You are under the silly impression that you have to threaten countries in order to influence them. That comes from the US might is right mentality.

Canada has accomplished more with out the need to act like the schoolyard bully.

Only those weak, insecure countries complain about other countries that can.

Spoken from the might is right mentality. Ever notice how the bully never lasts.

Ah the jealousy of the weak, superior (in their own minds), US dependent Canadians.

Odd how you need our power, water, oil, gas, lumber, minerals etc. You even need our north to tell you about all those Russian missiles.

The US thinks they can stand alone in the world but they are just fooling themselves.

 

[Ben1445]

I can only go by what you have posted Ben.

I assure you that I am less upset with you than you are with Trump supporters.

Your complaining is worse than your opinion.

Actually rather neutral overall. I can see the good and the bad.

So can we. We like to focus on the good. You like to focus on the bad.

It doesn’t mean we don’t see the bad sides of things. We are just not as pessimistic. We are also a bit more slow to offense than you are apparently.

Which it seems many Trum* supporters are unable to do.

As you say, it is your perception.

To ignore economics is to miss the actual effect no matter what the intended effect may be.

I haven’t ignored economics. I balance my budget. I live economics out on a daily basis.
I just don’t think that my country should pay more tariffs than every other country.
But we have discussed this before and you didn’t care for the other side of it. You prefer to live comfortably on another countries labour.

Your tariffs do not really affect me directly and from what I have seen it has caused our gov. to diversify our trading partners.

Then what are you always whining about? If they are such small things, why do you strain at a gnat?

I have heard what Trum* has said they are for but is that what you see happening. Not from what I have heard.

It does depend on who you listen to and what your patience level is. World peace is not a drive through menu option prepared like fast food. If you apply your Bible knowledge, you won’t even expect it.
Too many people are upset because they don’t see miracles overnight. This is tiresome to listen to.

I have done quite well thank you.

Thanks for your concern.

So you are prepared to run your qualifications of economics against that of President Trump?

Well if Trum* did not invade Venezuela why is he making such a big deal about it. Has he done anything to change the gov for the better for the people?

Well, dictator extraction is kind of a big deal. I applaud him for it.
Absolutely he has. He took step one and removed their terrible dictator (at Maduro’s own request/challenge)

That is why I view information from both side of the argument. You should try it.

I do. That is how I recognize garbage.
I don’t live in a primarily liberal country. My local government is not very liberal either. We enjoy a great deal of freedom and are not complacent in mediocrity.

Your view can be blinded to the other side of the argument because you will not look at it.

You don’t actually know what I look at. But, to be fair, you don’t report to me what you take in either.
But I can recognize your talking points. It isn’t hard to see where you line up.
I am aware that sometimes it hurts when you remove cancerous tumors. Recovery is not always pleasant. But tumors are removed because the long term benefits outweigh the immediate pain. I have recently heard from less conservative sources that the panic over tariffs has largely been overcome by Wall Street. I didn’t ask them what they thought. They reported it kind of late. I saw that before they reported it.

I’m not upset. I’m giving your perspective a reality check.

 

[Ben1445]

Odd how you need our power, water, oil, gas, lumber, minerals etc. You even need our north to tell you about all those Russian missiles.

The US thinks they can stand alone in the world but they are just fooling themselves.

We don’t have trees?
We don’t have water?
We don’t have power companies?
I think you don’t understand economics as much as you think you do.
Sure we might be slow in recovering from losing a supplier we have depended on.
But we would be better off without dependency on fickle governments who make deals with our enemies and pretend to be our allies while strengthening our enemies.

 

[Silverhair]

I assure you that I am less upset with you than you are with Trump supporters.

Your complaining is worse than your opinion.

Not upset with Trum* supporters. Just do not agree with the view that what he has done is actually good. Invading another country just to get their oil is not a good thing.

So can we. We like to focus on the good. You like to focus on the bad.

It doesn’t mean we don’t see the bad sides of things. We are just not as pessimistic. We are also a bit more slow to offense than you are apparently.

Trum* is setting the US up to be isolated.

You prefer to live comfortably on another countries labour.

No actually I live comfortably on my labours.

I live in a country rich in natural resources and we can afford to by the things we want form the countries that produce them.

Then what are you always whining about? If they are such small things, why do you strain at a gnat?

Just pointing out the blinded eyes that many in the US have.

It does depend on who you listen to and what your patience level is. World peace is not a drive through menu option prepared like fast food. If you apply your Bible knowledge, you won’t even expect it.

I do not expect world peace but that does not mean I want to live in a world of constant turmoil either.

But if you study the bible it would seem that the power protecting Israel, the US, has to be neutered before they will be attacked in the end times.

I think Trum* is just the catalyst God is using for the downfall of the US.

So you are prepared to run your qualifications of economics against that of President Trump?

His grasp of economics is questionable when he does not even understand tariffs.

Well, dictator extraction is kind of a big deal. I applaud him for it.
Absolutely he has. He took step one and removed their terrible dictator (at Maduro’s own request/challenge)

Well if he is so concerned about dictators then why not take out Putin or Chi or even Kim.

He took out Maduro so he could get the oil which is just what he has been doing.

You are fooling yourself if you think it was so that he could give the people of Venezuela freedom.

I don’t live in a primarily liberal country. My local government is not very liberal either. We enjoy a great deal of freedom and are not complacent in mediocrity.

That is why I do not live in the primarily liberal liberal part of the country.

But then again you live in a country that has voted in a rather immoral gov and leader more than once.

You don’t actually know what I look at. But, to be fair, you don’t report to me what you take in either.
But I can recognize your talking points. It isn’t hard to see where you line up.
I am aware that sometimes it hurts when you remove cancerous tumors. Recovery is not always pleasant. But tumors are removed because the long term benefits outweigh the immediate pain. I have recently heard from less conservative sources that the panic over tariffs has largely been overcome by Wall Street. I didn’t ask them what they thought. They reported it kind of late. I saw that before they reported it.

I’m not upset. I’m giving your perspective a reality check.

I line up on the side of justice. Don't you.

Yes I say that the market has taken into account the tariffs, just like they take other disruptions into account. That is how the market works.

I understand the reality of the situation but I do not discount the actions that have brought about that reality.

 

[Ben1445]

But then again you live in a country that has voted in a rather immoral gov and leader more than once

The pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Silverhair]

The pot calling the kettle black.

Just pointing out facts.

Did you not know that about your leaders?

 

[Silverhair]

We don’t have trees?
We don’t have water?
We don’t have power companies?
I think you don’t understand economics as much as you think you do.
Sure we might be slow in recovering from losing a supplier we have depended on.
But we would be better off without dependency on fickle governments who make deals with our enemies and pretend to be our allies while strengthening our enemies.

Ya you have trees, water and even power companies but even those require that you get it from Canada.

Well I agree why should we strengthen our enemies which it seems the US is bent on becoming with all the odd policies and comments coming from the WH.

But since we trade with China I am sure we will still trade with the US.

 

[Silverhair]

I’m not arguing basic economics. I am talking about the intended effect of how they are used.

Just say this and thought it might interest you

The S&P 500 slid as trading opened Tuesday, shedding roughly $750 billion in wealth in recent days as President Donald Trump intensified his push for U.S. control over Greenland, as one economist noted the broader market losses equaled the value of the Danish territory.

Words have consequences.

 

[Ben1445]

Just say this and thought it might interest you

The S&P 500 slid as trading opened Tuesday, shedding roughly $750 billion in wealth in recent days as President Donald Trump intensified his push for U.S. control over Greenland, as one economist noted the broader market losses equaled the value of the Danish territory.

Words have consequences.

Interesting. How would you put a dollar figure on living in your wonderful moderately conservative neighborhood having done well in life vs. living in a situation like Russia and Ukraine because your enemies moved across the ocean to set up camp and be your neighbor. Your enemies who want to destroy you. Not like the US who is a peace through superiority nation, whether you believe it or not.
Is there a dollar figure for safety?
I severely doubt that Trump would be moving in on Greenland if the threat was not real.
And you seem to like the idea of being an enemy of the US. It doesn’t make any sense.
You are just being a crotchety old neighbor.
Relax a bit. If we start taking a communist approach, I’ll do something. As it is now, I see what is happening. I don’t have my head in the sand. I have a different opinion and perspective on what is happening.

In the meantime, I will put off talking politics with you. I have a strong dislike for communism. And your preferred partners fit that description based on your opinions.
I don’t lose sleep over politics or the stock market. I don’t trust or rely on either of them. Since there’s little we agree on here and no real progress in discussion, you go on hating Trump as you please.
You have many misconceptions about Americans. My Canadian friends would back me up on that I’m sure. But you don’t believe me anyway. So I will stop telling you.

 

[Silverhair]

Interesting. How would you put a dollar figure on living in your wonderful moderately conservative neighborhood having done well in life vs. living in a situation like Russia and Ukraine because your enemies moved across the ocean to set up camp and be your neighbor. Your enemies who want to destroy you. Not like the US who is a peace through superiority nation, whether you believe it or not.
Is there a dollar figure for safety?
I severely doubt that Trump would be moving in on Greenland if the threat was not real.
And you seem to like the idea of being an enemy of the US. It doesn’t make any sense.
You are just being a crotchety old neighbor.
Relax a bit. If we start taking a communist approach, I’ll do something. As it is now, I see what is happening. I don’t have my head in the sand. I have a different opinion and perspective on what is happening.

In the meantime, I will put off talking politics with you. I have a strong dislike for communism. And your preferred partners fit that description based on your opinions.
I don’t lose sleep over politics or the stock market. I don’t trust or rely on either of them. Since there’s little we agree on here and no real progress in discussion, you go on hating Trump as you please.
You have many misconceptions about Americans. My Canadian friends would back me up on that I’m sure. But you don’t believe me anyway. So I will stop telling you.

Ben I can see that you are only looking at the situation from the US perspective which is understandable as you live there. Problem is that your leader has chosen to act like the schoolyard bully and thinks that other sovereign nations should just go along with his wishes.

Sorry but the world does not work that way. I do fins it rather funny that you would say you do not like communism when your leader really seems to like it as he try's to be just like all those communist leaders. No regard for any law he does not like, invade sovereign nations to get their natural resources.

It is not Trum* that I hate it is the actions that he has done and says that he wants to do.

Those are the actions of a thug not someone that holds the position that he does.

 

[Ben1445]

Ben I can see that you are only looking at the situation from the US perspective which is understandable as you live there. Problem is that your leader has chosen to act like the schoolyard bully and thinks that other sovereign nations should just go along with his wishes.

Sorry but the world does not work that way. I do fins it rather funny that you would say you do not like communism when your leader really seems to like it as he try's to be just like all those communist leaders. No regard for any law he does not like, invade sovereign nations to get their natural resources.

It is not Trum* that I hate it is the actions that he has done and says that he wants to do.

Those are the actions of a thug not someone that holds the position that he does.

I’ll send you a box of tissues.

 

[Mikoo]

@Mikoo I do not have a problem seeing the issues that we have facing us. I am realistic about what is going on but many in the US have blinders on or just avoid the truth.

Another assumption.

Well from your responses you do not like that I question what the US has done and says they would like to do. So not assuming just responding to the posts.What would that be?

Another assumption.

OK so you do it one way and I do it another.

And which way would that be?

 

[Mikoo]

You base that on what comment that I made?

Based on comments you haven't made.

I notice that Trum* thinks he can tell NATO members what they can do.

He has every right to speak his mind on NATO.

You are under the silly impression that you have to threaten countries in order to influence them.

What office do you hold in Canada?

That comes from the US might is right mentality.

Another assumption.

Canada has accomplished more with out the need to act like the schoolyard bully.

LOL. And what has Canada 'accomplished'?

Spoken from the might is right mentality. Ever notice how the bully never lasts.

LOL. Only those weak, insecure countries complain about other countries that can. Your welcome for the protection we provide your country.

Odd how you need our power, water, oil, gas, lumber, minerals etc. You even need our north to tell you about all those Russian missiles.

The price you pay for our protection.

The US thinks they can stand alone in the world but they are just fooling themselves.

Another assumption.

 

[Conan]

Nt

 

[Silverhair]

I’ll send you a box of tissues.

Why? I am not the one that has to live with him as my leader.

 

[Conan]

The real reason Trump wants Greenland
It's not good.

 

[Ben1445]

The real reason Trump wants Greenland
It's not good.

Thanks for that bit of propaganda.

 

[Conan]

Thanks for that bit of propaganda.

We're you able to watch it? It's not propaganda. It's the truth. And Globalist billionaires owned Mainstream newsmedia FOX CNN MSNBC BBC ABC CBS PUBLIC RAIDIO will not tell you the truth. There is no difference what administration is in charge at the moment. This is the plan. It should be self evident after viewing.