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The Two "Christmas" Stories

Ben1445

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What are the cons of Nazareth to Egypt?
I’ve been listing them all along.
Joseph and Mary married in Nazareth and date counters being able to recognize Jesus as illegitimate to Joseph.
The wisemen arriving in Nazareth instead of Bethlehem where prophecy was fulfilled. These are wisemen. The reason they are searching for Christ is because of prophecy. It would seem to be a problem for recognition if they were in Nazareth.
Also, they were following the star. The star brought them by Jerusalem on the way to Bethlehem. If they were going to Nazareth they would have taken the “skip Samaria” road when they came to it. It would have been more direct.
Traveling to Egypt when Jesus’ life was not in danger. Look at a map. Herod didn’t kill every baby in the country. Nazareth is not in the coasts of Bethlehem.
Considering He lived in Nazareth within a few weeks after His birth in Bethlehem.
This is your assumption.

You seem to be quite invested in it. Did you preach it yesterday?
It doesn’t say that as soon as, or immediately. It says, “And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord,” I would include “out of Egypt have I called my son” in that, even though it is not part of the laws you are speaking of.

There is no reason to believe He was anywhere else when they found Him some 18-22 months later.
Only that Herod sent them to Bethlehem
And go back and read my posts again. You seem to have forgotten them already. I find them compelling.
Tradition does get some things wrong. I don’t think this is one of them.

Now, what are the cons to the traditional narrative?
You just asked me my question without answering.
I have also been answering my question towards you all along. So it is a bit frustrating to be asked to answer it again. But I did until I got tired of repeating myself.
So again I ask, what are the cons of Bethlehem to Egypt?
Your assertion that Jesus was living in Nazareth is assumption. It is not stated anywhere.
Apart from that one verse that you are teaching, which can easily be explained by the traditional order of travel, what other cons are there in the traditional narrative?
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
I’ve been listing them all along.
Joseph and Mary married in Nazareth and date counters being able to recognize Jesus as illegitimate to Joseph.
The wisemen arriving in Nazareth instead of Bethlehem where prophecy was fulfilled. These are wisemen. The reason they are searching for Christ is because of prophecy. It would seem to be a problem for recognition if they were in Nazareth.
Also, they were following the star. The star brought them by Jerusalem on the way to Bethlehem. If they were going to Nazareth they would have taken the “skip Samaria” road when they came to it. It would have been more direct.
Traveling to Egypt when Jesus’ life was not in danger. Look at a map. Herod didn’t kill every baby in the country. Nazareth is not in the coasts of Bethlehem.

This is your assumption.

You seem to be quite invested in it. Did you preach it yesterday?
It doesn’t say that as soon as, or immediately. It says, “And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord,” I would include “out of Egypt have I called my son” in that, even though it is not part of the laws you are speaking of.


Only that Herod sent them to Bethlehem
And go back and read my posts again. You seem to have forgotten them already. I find them compelling.
Tradition does get some things wrong. I don’t think this is one of them.

Now, what are the cons to the traditional narrative?
You just asked me my question without answering.
I have also been answering my question towards you all along. So it is a bit frustrating to be asked to answer it again. But I did until I got tired of repeating myself.
So again I ask, what are the cons of Bethlehem to Egypt?
Your assertion that Jesus was living in Nazareth is assumption. It is not stated anywhere.
Apart from that one verse that you are teaching, which can easily be explained by the traditional order of travel, what other cons are there in the traditional narrative?

If they found Him in a playhouse behind the Temple what difference would It make to us?
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
If they found Him in a playhouse behind the Temple what difference would It make to us?
You must have no other cons. If there is nothing to add, please say so. I will stop waiting.

You seem happier to find him in a playhouse than in Egypt.
Again I ask, what makes you so invested in this. You are not looking objectively.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
You must have no other cons. If there is nothing to add, please say so. I will stop waiting.

You seem happier to find him in a playhouse than in Egypt.
Again I ask, what makes you so invested in this. You are not looking objectively.

Well actually I never wanted to be in a conversation that has no worthwhile conclusion.

That's why I never wanted to mention Christ at 40 days old living in Nazareth.
 
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