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Baptist Believer

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"Modest" and "significant" seem to be at odds with each other.
Hardly. A "modest" kidney stone is quite significant.

A modest three points can win a football game.

A modest amount of plutonium can kill an enormous number of people.

Actual numbers of people who voted for Trump out of some sort of racial "fear" will work just fine.
Since we do secret voting in the United States (you know that, right?), it would be impossible to get the actual vote numbers and connect them to individuals.

So if I were to find a poll, would you accept it?

Why is this so difficult for you when you are so sure of yourself?
Because you are poised to reject any evidence I provide. You seem to already have your mind made up, so I am doing us both a favor by getting you to commit to some sort of evidence before I go dig it up.
 

Baptist Believer

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OK so what's wrong with Mexico or south America if their culture is so wonderful?
Culture is a different thing that corruption at the highest levels of government. Culture is a different thing than drug gangs forcing people to participate in their schemes or facing death.

It's ok for them to come here as long as they are not displacing white workers, with us black Americans it's our fault, we need a better education. Logic lol.
So you are now identifying as "black?" That's fine. No one has placed fault on black persons. Everyone needs to be constantly improving their marketability for our economy. It is not an ethnic issue.

That is logical.
 

carpro

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Because you are poised to reject any evidence I provide. You seem to already have your mind made up, so I am doing us both a favor by getting you to commit to some sort of evidence before I go dig it up.

I have told you exactly what is needed.

All this simply means you don't have any evidence, just a warped opinion.

But I can tell you what people were really afraid of and you can put your race card back where it belongs, in the trash.

TZhey were afraid of another 4 years of the economic stagnation of Obamanomics, another 4 years of continuous assault on their constitutional rights, another 4 years of selective law enforcement, another 4 years of illegal activities and scandal by the president, another 4 years of dishonesty and using the justice department as a political tool, and another 4 years of lawsuits to get the government to disclose what they are required to disclose under the law.

And then some.

But race had almost nothing to do with it.
 

InTheLight

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Please post where I stated you don't like Hispanics.

Here's the exchange:

Jedi Knight:
Jedi Knight said:
I need a list of cities and states with less catering to illegals.......Houston is a gone already.

Your response:
TCassidy said:
If you don't like Mexicans or the Spanish language, Texas is probably not the place you should be living.


Later on in the thread, Jedi Knight said:
Jedi Knight said:
BTW look for jobs in Houston and many want Bilingual "code word for Spanish" for normal jobs to cater to illegals and thus throwing English speaking citizens under the bus!

Your response:
TCassidy said:
And, if you don't like Hispanics, or hearing the Spanish language, Texas is probably not the place for you to live.
 

TCassidy

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Here's the exchange:

Jedi Knight:


Your response:



Later on in the thread, Jedi Knight said:


Your response:
Yes, two "if - then" constructs. As Jedi Knight seems to have applied that to himself I guess it was he who said he didn't like Hispanics. :D
 

Baptist Believer

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I have told you exactly what is needed.
You demanded voting records for specific people. That is information that no one has.

All this simply means you don't have any evidence, just a warped opinion.
No, it means you have set an impossible standard of evidence, like I suspected you would.

I personally know at least four people in my extended family who voted for Trump based on a fear of non-white people. I also know that many white identity groups endorsed Trump and gladly voted for him, according to their own testimony. However, I cannot give you secret ballot information to ensure that those persons were not actually closet Clinton voters.

TZhey were afraid of another 4 years of the economic stagnation of Obamanomics, another 4 years of continuous assault on their constitutional rights, another 4 years of selective law enforcement, another 4 years of illegal activities and scandal by the president, another 4 years of dishonesty and using the justice department as a political tool, and another 4 years of lawsuits to get the government to disclose what they are required to disclose under the law.
A large number of people voted for Trump based on opinions like these.

But race had almost nothing to do with it.
You just noted by your use of "almost" in the previous sentence, that there were some who did vote because of "race." So many that it was significant enough to put in the disclaimer. You just conceded my point.

The election was extremely close - with Trump losing the raw vote - so even small numbers are significant.
 

ChrisTheSaved

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Culture is a different thing that corruption at the highest levels of government. Culture is a different thing than drug gangs forcing people to participate in their schemes or facing death.


So you are now identifying as "black?" That's fine. No one has placed fault on black persons. Everyone needs to be constantly improving their marketability for our economy. It is not an ethnic issue.

That is logical.


You are a racist I can tell be the fact you bring race into everything. As a mixed race person I will identify how ever I please. I do not need a biggot like you telling me "it's fine" to be black...you need help sir. It's 2017, it's time to stop trying to control black people. I need no one's permission to exist.

I speck of culture and you speak of other things. Stop replying to me and quoting me. Let this be a lesson to liberals in America...the days of yall oppressing minorities by your twisted policies are ending.

Why do you assume I need to make sure your ok with my racial identity? Go back to the 1950's.
 

Baptist Believer

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You are a racist I can tell be the fact you bring race into everything.
Actually no. You were the one who brought it into the conversation with your "Hispanics like locusts" assertion.

As a mixed race person I will identify how ever I please.
Absolutely. That's why I brought up that issue when I told you of my three nephews with the same parents - one identifies as "white", one as "mixed" and the other identified as "black." It's all good. The only reason I referenced it is that you shifted your self-identity from "mixed" to "black" at one point in the conversation in order to bolster your ragged points. I personally don't care if you identify as a spangled yellow-tailed sparrow. It doesn't make your arguments any better or worse than they already are.

I do not need a biggot like you telling me "it's fine" to be black...you need help sir. It's 2017, it's time to stop trying to control black people. I need no one's permission to exist.
You're really playing up the "race" angle for your own benefit. It's only relevant to you.

I speck of culture and you speak of other things.
You wrote of "culture," yet talked about the current political/social climate, which it something quite different. I was just trying to keep your comments connected to reality.

Stop replying to me and quoting me.
It's 2017. I don't need your permission to exist or participate in these forums. Moreover, stop trying to control people, whether it is "Hispanic" folks or persons with whom you disagree.

Let this be a lesson to liberals in America...the days of yall oppressing minorities by your twisted policies are ending.
I'm not sure if the liberals will see this. No one who is a liberal is participating in this thread.

Why do you assume I need to make sure your ok with my racial identity? Go back to the 1950's.
I don't. I did not exist in the 1950s, so I can't go back. If I had a time machine and could go back, I'd probably be involved in the civil rights movement.
 

Benjamin

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I seriously doubt the liberal race card accusation had as much effect on the election as those liberals did who were big on communism and radical socialism so crybaby losers whining about how racism might have turned the election based on such things, especially in consideration of the weaknesses in this area from within their own party and the obvious hypocrisy when it comes to ole worn out ploy of pulling the race card, it is a pretty ignorant and desperate argument for liberals or even closet liberals to make.
 
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