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1 John 2:2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.except Bible stated that Jesus died for the sins of the Many, not for all
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1 John 2:2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.except Bible stated that Jesus died for the sins of the Many, not for all
One cannot know anything without believing a thing.If I may interject a question after reading the thread - From where does this "faith" (that man has to be capable of hearing, repenting of sin, and believing the Gospel) originate?
Amen, alleuia.1 John 2:2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
I prefer to know something/someone before believing...One cannot know anything without believing a thing.
We can know due to God choosing to reveal Himself to us, by the Lord Jesus thru the Holy SpiritOne cannot know anything without believing a thing.
Have to define by context what is meant by the whole worldAmen, alleuia.
You want to hear a thing before you choose to believe a thing.I prefer to know something/someone before believing...
John 17:3 KJV
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Romans 10:14-15 (KJV) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!You want to hear a thing before you choose to believe a thing.
How do you choose to believe a thing you hear?
There is already something you had believed. In your hearing.
Why do some hear with understand, while others stay still tone deaf to the message? Its called sovereignty of the Lord, and the working of the Holy SpiritRomans 10:14-15 (KJV) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Why do some hear with understand, while others stay still tone deaf to the message? Its called sovereignty of the Lord, and the working of the Holy SpiritYou want to hear a thing before you choose to believe a thing.
How do you choose to believe a thing you hear?
There is already something you had believed. In your hearing.
Psalms 19:4, . . . Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. . . .Why do some hear with understand, while others stay still tone deaf to the message? Its called sovereignty of the Lord, and the working of the Holy Spirit
It's also called grace.Why do some hear with understand, while others stay still tone deaf to the message? Its called sovereignty of the Lord, and the working of the Holy Spirit
" At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.Why do some hear with understand, while others stay still tone deaf to the message?
Jesus Himself qualified that by stating all that the Father gave unto Him shall be raised up in last days, not all persons periodYet, there is this...
John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Does the Father draw all? Then why are not all regenerated?
Where does saving faith come from? From the Holy Spirit ot internally inherit in all men?Faith precedes being born again.
Now sanctification does precede faith.
John 17:17, Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Romans 10:17, So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
That's where he messed up. By saying "the written Word of God teaches...", rather than, "a misreading assumption misunderstood in the misinterpretation of a word in this verse teaches..."" in whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,"
The passage you quoted above says "sealed" after belief...not "born again" or that, in the case of Lydia, "the Lord opened her heart" so that she would listen to the things Paul spoke of.
I'm not seeing it from what Scriptures you've shown, so I'll have to ask, "Based on what?"
Perhaps bringing in more of God's word would help me to understand how and why you see it that way.
All faith comes from God. Romans 10:17-18.Where does saving faith come from?
Romans 12:3, . . . God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.From the Holy Spirit ot internally inherit in all men?