They do not deserve a *State*

[yeshua4me2]

and they don't deserve a state, they were called either egyptians or jordanians before "they got their hats handed to um" in a war they started.

PBS did an excellent documentry on the history of Isreal, and PBS cannot be called a friend of Zionism. this documentry used original footage from the actual time, them was some tuff Jews. basically had to fight their way into their own country.


and how embarassing for all the armies that lost those wars, first one they lost was not even to an army, but to newly settled immigrants.

thankyou and God Blesss

 

[Plain Old Bill]

I have also read the the word:rapturo" is in the Latin Vulgate, for whatever that's worth.
As to pre-mill,amill,or postmill,pre-trib,mid-trib,or post trib points of view,I don't think holding any of those views will keep one from going to heaven so they are not worth getting that heated up over.
Truly I don't mean this to come out in a mean spirited way but you guys who are amill seem to know a lot more about this Darby fellow than the rest of us do.I've heard about him enough to finally pique my interest enough to go read some of his works so I will know what you are talking about.
Do I hope that Isreal will be able to live in peace with her neighbors,yes.Do I pray for peace?yes.Do I pray for the souls of muslims? Yes even that the muslim terrorists would see the error or his/her way and be converted to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Do I believe all mulims are terrorists?Certainly not.But I believe that the peaceful muslims who live among the terrorists and know who they are have an obligation to turn them in and stop this mess.I believe thier silence condemns them.What are we to believe about thier real beliefs if they can do something about this and do nothing.The terrorists are getting away with murder and somebody is allowing it.

 

[LadyEagle]

Rapturo means "snatching away" according to what I read.

And, of course, I do believe He will.

Waiting for that glorious trumpet sound!

 

[rsr]

From the Latin vulgate, I Thess. 4:17:

"deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus"

This is the word translated "caught up" in the KJV and is from the same root as "rapture."

 

[yeshua4me2]

still they do not deserve a state (would the US accept an openly hostile group to set up a state next to us?) alqadabama?

thankyou and God Bless