Things Jesus Didn’t Say

[Alcott]

You are right, Jesus never said those things. But neither has Trump or his administration where as Trump and his administration has advocated those negative ideas expressed in the OP.

Very well.Is this idiotic thread all sewed up?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Very well.Is this idiotic thread all sewed up?

No because Trump and many of his supporters hold to these unchristian positions. There is no way to hold that these positions in any way were taught by Jesus. Nor is there any way that many of these stances are constitutional as they do not support the 'general welfare' of citizens, but harm the welfare of these citizens.

 

[Alcott]

There is no way to hold that these positions in any way were taught by Jesus.

Yes or No: must a president hold positions taught by Jesus and no other positions?

 

[Crabtownboy]

Yes or No: must a president hold positions taught by Jesus and no other positions?

Obviously not. Trump has yet to hold positions that Christ would approve of when it comes to healthcare and taxes.

 

[TCassidy]

Obviously not. Trump has yet to hold positions that Christ would approve of when it comes to healthcare and taxes.

Would that be not having health insurance and just trusting in Christ for healing?

And we should all pay our taxes by getting coins out of the mouths of fish?

 

[Alcott]

Obviously not. Trump has yet to hold positions that Christ would approve of when it comes to healthcare and taxes.

'Obviously not' for any president. And what did Jesus teach about healthcare, anyway?-- no provision for stopping the bleeding from cutting off your hand or gouging out your eye. He did say "he that shall save his life shall lose it, ..."

 

[Crabtownboy]

'Obviously not' for any president. And what did Jesus teach about healthcare, anyway?-- no provision for stopping the bleeding from cutting off your hand or gouging out your eye. He did say "he that shall save his life shall lose it, ..."

Please go read your Bible. Jesus answers all your sophomoric questioins.

 

[Alcott]

Please go read your Bible. Jesus answers all your sophomoric questioins.

OK
You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not commit murder’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell [Matthew 5:21-22].

Considering the violent protests, the name calling and the hate expressed, there are obviously a great number of Trump detractors who are guilty of murder in Jesus' eyes; guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.Do you disagree with Jesus?

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, [where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.] If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell, [where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.] If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched. [Mark 9"43-48].

So where does healthcare come in? Jesus is instructing the opposite of "care."

For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it [Matthew 16:25].

Much of healthcare is wishing to save one's life. Is it more important to do so than to lose it for Jesus' sake?
Now go ahead; argue with these things Jesus so clearly did say.

 

[Crabtownboy]

OK
You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not commit murder’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell [Matthew 5:21-22].

Considering the violent protests, the name calling and the hate expressed, there are obviously a great number of Trump detractors who are guilty of murder in Jesus' eyes; guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.Do you disagree with Jesus?

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, [where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.] If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell, [where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.] If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched. [Mark 9"43-48].

So where does healthcare come in? Jesus is instructing the opposite of "care."

For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it [Matthew 16:25].

Much of healthcare is wishing to save one's life. Is it more important to do so than to lose it for Jesus' sake?
Now go ahead; argue with these things Jesus so clearly did say.

You are being very liberal in your interpretation.

 

[Alcott]

You are being very liberal in your interpretation.

Yes or No: are you a scriptural literalist?

 

[Happy]

Things Jesus didn’t say:

From: Previously Undiscovered Manuscript Reveals Things Jesus Didn't Say | The Huffington Post

• ”Love your friends, bless those who bless you … and [Crude language edited] everybody else.”
• “If you had the faith of this mustard seed … you wouldn’t need all that fancy ‘affordable healthcare.’”
• “Blessed are the racists, for they will rise to great heights in the new administration.”
• “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I mean, look at all these liberals, and their un-Christian ‘caring for widows, orphans, and the stranger.’ Why can’t they care about Christian stuff, like the 2nd amendment or school prayer?”
• “Go, sell all you have and give it to the richest one percent.”
• “Blessed are those who hate immigrants in my name, for they shall inherit all the jobs white people don’t want to do.”
• “Follow me and I will make you fishers of … people who look just like you.”
• “Give unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar, and give unto God only what you can’t hide on your 1040.”
• “Let the little children come to me … unless they’re in Head Start or need help with school lunches, then cast them out into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of their tiny little teeth.”
• “Come unto me all ye who are weary and heavy laden … and I will make sure you have no union to watch over you.”
• “Go ye therefore into all the world … and make sure everybody hates Muslims. Because obviously.”
• “My God, my God, why do women not see that men should have the last word about what they do with their bodies?”
• “You have heard it said, ‘You shall not commit adultery, but I say to you … unless she’s a lot younger, prettier (like a model or whatever), and you’ve had enough foresight to sign a prenup.’”
• “You have heard it said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, but I say to you … [Crude language edited]? They’ve got it coming.’”
• ”You have heard it said that healthcare should be a right for everyone, but I say to you, ‘If you can store up for yourselves another new Benz, even though it comes from money meant for poor people’s chemotherapy, then you should totally do it.’”
• “You cannot serve God and mammon … which is why it was important to have the Supreme Court rule favorably in Citizens United. Helps us keep to keep who’s who straight.”
• “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven … but if you have a suitably large investment portfolio, that definitely won’t hurt.”
• “If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also.” (Marginalia—“This only applies to People of Color and women in abusive relationships.”)
• “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but I say to you … just kidding. That’s for suckers!”
• “And I, when I am lifted up, will draw all straight, cisgender, middle class white guys unto myself.”
• “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep … except refugees. They definitely do not count.”
• “So therefore , none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions.” (Wait. Actually, he did say that, but he probably shouldn’t have.)

Sheesh ~ Saying what Jesus did NOT say and then ADDING opinionated nonsense ~ WOT!

 

[Happy]

No because Trump and many of his supporters hold to these unchristian positions. There is no way to hold that these positions in any way were taught by Jesus. Nor is there any way that many of these stances are constitutional as they do not support the 'general welfare' of citizens, but harm the welfare of these citizens.

What is your beef?

Defining people of which religion "supports" Trump?
or
Constitutional welfare provisions?

Because ~

It is none of your business, what a person's religious beliefs are who have decided to support Trump.
AND
Constitutional provisions that provide government welfare to the people, is Constitutionally defined to be for the public at large, (such as roads, postal, patents, money value) NOT particular classes of people,
whom the "government" decides is "qualified", (such as poor, rich, race, minorities, faith) .

 

[MennoSota]

Would that be not having health insurance and just trusting in Christ for healing?

And we should all pay our taxes by getting coins out of the mouths of fish?

Something Christ did not say:
"You will have health and wealth if you just have enough faith."
By the way, do you ever wonder if Joel Osteen has health insurance? Seems like he'd be showing a lack of faith to purchase it. [emoji41] [emoji57]

 

[Aaron]

Things Jesus didn’t say:

From: Previously Undiscovered Manuscript Reveals Things Jesus Didn't Say | The Huffington Post

• ”Love your friends, bless those who bless you … and [Crude language edited] everybody else.”
• “If you had the faith of this mustard seed … you wouldn’t need all that fancy ‘affordable healthcare.’”
• “Blessed are the racists, for they will rise to great heights in the new administration.”
• “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I mean, look at all these liberals, and their un-Christian ‘caring for widows, orphans, and the stranger.’ Why can’t they care about Christian stuff, like the 2nd amendment or school prayer?”
• “Go, sell all you have and give it to the richest one percent.”
• “Blessed are those who hate immigrants in my name, for they shall inherit all the jobs white people don’t want to do.”
• “Follow me and I will make you fishers of … people who look just like you.”
• “Give unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar, and give unto God only what you can’t hide on your 1040.”
• “Let the little children come to me … unless they’re in Head Start or need help with school lunches, then cast them out into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of their tiny little teeth.”
• “Come unto me all ye who are weary and heavy laden … and I will make sure you have no union to watch over you.”
• “Go ye therefore into all the world … and make sure everybody hates Muslims. Because obviously.”
• “My God, my God, why do women not see that men should have the last word about what they do with their bodies?”
• “You have heard it said, ‘You shall not commit adultery, but I say to you … unless she’s a lot younger, prettier (like a model or whatever), and you’ve had enough foresight to sign a prenup.’”
• “You have heard it said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, but I say to you … [Crude language edited]? They’ve got it coming.’”
• ”You have heard it said that healthcare should be a right for everyone, but I say to you, ‘If you can store up for yourselves another new Benz, even though it comes from money meant for poor people’s chemotherapy, then you should totally do it.’”
• “You cannot serve God and mammon … which is why it was important to have the Supreme Court rule favorably in Citizens United. Helps us keep to keep who’s who straight.”
• “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven … but if you have a suitably large investment portfolio, that definitely won’t hurt.”
• “If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also.” (Marginalia—“This only applies to People of Color and women in abusive relationships.”)
• “Again, you have heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but I say to you … just kidding. That’s for suckers!”
• “And I, when I am lifted up, will draw all straight, cisgender, middle class white guys unto myself.”
• “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep … except refugees. They definitely do not count.”
• “So therefore , none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions.” (Wait. Actually, he did say that, but he probably shouldn’t have.)

Let's start with something His Father said: You will have no other gods before Me.

Show me your legislation for that, then you can talk about the rest.