Thinking of Starting Beg Greek Class In Church, any Suggestions?

[DaChaser1]

as maybe an elective sunday school course...

Any suggestions to say a beginners Grammar, materials, software etc?

 

[glfredrick]

I'd try for a "Greek Tools and User Guide" class before I jumped into a beginning Greek class. See how that goes, then if some wish to continue into the actual study of Koine Greek you have at least laid the ground work.

Teach them the Greek alpha-beta, a little bit about grammar and word construction, then how to actually use some of the interlinear tools, concordance, and perhaps something along the lines of Strongs and Thayers (for starters, and because they are all free).

If you actually wish to teach Greek I can think of no better tool than Mounce.

Even on-line lessons for free:

http://www.teknia.com/

 

[DaChaser1]

I'd try for a "Greek Tools and User Guide" class before I jumped into a beginning Greek class. See how that goes, then if some wish to continue into the actual study of Koine Greek you have at least laid the ground work.

Teach them the Greek alpha-beta, a little bit about grammar and word construction, then how to actually use some of the interlinear tools, concordance, and perhaps something along the lines of Strongs and Thayers (for starters, and because they are all free).

If you actually wish to teach Greek I can think of no better tool than Mounce.

Even on-line lessons for free:

http://www.teknia.com/

Thanks!
Think that an intro to how to use various greek/English tools available for bible research and study would be best route to go, and IF any wants to pursue it futher, go into actual Greek alphabet, Greek word studies etc later on!

 

[preachinjesus]

Who would lead this class? Are they an expert in NT Greek?

 

[glfredrick]

I'm thinking of doing the same thing at my church, which is why I responded as I did.

Oh, and it does not take an "expert" to teach rudimentary Greek. It DOES take an expert to teach advanced exegesis and syntax, but to learn the basics anyone with an M.Div. level (or a great desire to learn themselves) can work through the Mounce book, with his CD and workbook and come out of the exercise with at least the ability to grasp the fundamentals of Greek grammar.

I WOULD teach the alpha-beta for knowing the letters are about the only way to actually start to use Greek tools in any serious form. Otherwise one is only teaching half of the package -- learning to read the English -- and then they may find themselves making the same sort of errors that we often see on the board. A little bit of Greek is a powerful -- but not often good -- thing, as it instantly makes some think that they actually understand advanced grammar and syntax when in fact they are a long way from that.

 

[DaChaser1]

I'm thinking of doing the same thing at my church, which is why I responded as I did.

Oh, and it does not take an "expert" to teach rudimentary Greek. It DOES take an expert to teach advanced exegesis and syntax, but to learn the basics anyone with an M.Div. level (or a great desire to learn themselves) can work through the Mounce book, with his CD and workbook and come out of the exercise with at least the ability to grasp the fundamentals of Greek grammar.

I WOULD teach the alpha-beta for knowing the letters are about the only way to actually start to use Greek tools in any serious form. Otherwise one is only teaching half of the package -- learning to read the English -- and then they may find themselves making the same sort of errors that we often see on the board. A little bit of Greek is a powerful -- but not often good -- thing, as it instantly makes some think that they actually understand advanced grammar and syntax when in fact they are a long way from that.

Plan would be that I could teach them the various greek study tolls, introduce them to learning the alphabet, and that IF we were to have another class afterwards , my pastor could teach, as he had 4 yeras Greek, 3 hebrew, and used the Greek bible in his NT theology Phd book on the trinity in gospel of John!

Don't know if an expert, but best one I personally know!

 

[DaChaser1]

I'm thinking of doing the same thing at my church, which is why I responded as I did.

Oh, and it does not take an "expert" to teach rudimentary Greek. It DOES take an expert to teach advanced exegesis and syntax, but to learn the basics anyone with an M.Div. level (or a great desire to learn themselves) can work through the Mounce book, with his CD and workbook and come out of the exercise with at least the ability to grasp the fundamentals of Greek grammar.

I WOULD teach the alpha-beta for knowing the letters are about the only way to actually start to use Greek tools in any serious form. Otherwise one is only teaching half of the package -- learning to read the English -- and then they may find themselves making the same sort of errors that we often see on the board. A little bit of Greek is a powerful -- but not often good -- thing, as it instantly makes some think that they actually understand advanced grammar and syntax when in fact they are a long way from that.

Just curious as to what Greek Grammars that you learned Greek from/with?

 

[glfredrick]

Just curious as to what Greek Grammars that you learned Greek from/with?

Primarily with Mounce, but I have a shelf full that I consult when I get no where with Mounce. I've also spent a lot of time with several good doctors at the seminary getting this stuff drilled into my head (Hebrew as well).

One always learns other things from experts than is handled in grammars.

If you want a list, I've used Wallace (syntax and grammar). and A.T. Robertson.

Lexicons and study aids: Thayers, Mounce's Lexicon, Smith's, Strongs, and a few others.

I have also used Parson's Greek Tutor (and Hebrew Tutor).

Best way? Do it. Read it, then figure out the parts you don't know.

 

[DaChaser1]

Primarily with Mounce, but I have a shelf full that I consult when I get no where with Mounce. I've also spent a lot of time with several good doctors at the seminary getting this stuff drilled into my head (Hebrew as well).

One always learns other things from experts than is handled in grammars.

If you want a list, I've used Wallace (syntax and grammar). and A.T. Robertson.

Lexicons and study aids: Thayers, Mounce's Lexicon, Smith's, Strongs, and a few others.

I have also used Parson's Greek Tutor (and Hebrew Tutor).

Best way? Do it. Read it, then figure out the parts you don't know.

My pastor favorite line about Greek is "use it or lose it!"
He tries to read a chapter a day in the greek text, along with 'regular reading"

 

[glfredrick]

My pastor favorite line about Greek is "use it or lose it!"
He tries to read a chapter a day in the greek text, along with 'regular reading"

Yup... Especially with languages and paradigms. I'm a decent enough scholar and I try to remain fresh, but every time I get back into the languages I realize just how far I've fallen. Whata I could once decipher on sight, I now need to grab the tools. Spend too much time arguing here on the board when I could be memorizing Greek vocab.

 

[DaChaser1]

Yup... Especially with languages and paradigms. I'm a decent enough scholar and I try to remain fresh, but every time I get back into the languages I realize just how far I've fallen. Whata I could once decipher on sight, I now need to grab the tools. Spend too much time arguing here on the board when I could be memorizing Greek vocab.

what, miss all the fun debating cals and Arms daily basis?

Almost like its "predestined!"

My problem is that when switched out all of the Greek/hebrew tools from print form to bible software, got "lazy", as easier to click the mouse and pu;; up the information than manually looking it up and going back and forth from lexicon/grammar word studies etc!