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This Guy Points His Gun At The Police And What Happens Next Is Unbelievable

Don

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Yep and it's always been because I witnessed something that pushed me towards it.

Yep and it's always been because they didn't want to be known as their competitors were known.
Well, we're definitely going to have to agree to disagree.

That's called reality. And you're being silly. I have no problem being righteously judgmental as Scripture calls me to be. You and others need to get a grip on the reality that black people are dealing with everyday.

So I say again, ask your friends and co-workers if that guy would still be alive if he were black? You ALREADY know the answer because you ALREADY know the reality of the world in which we live.
Reality is based on facts. The fact is that we have police departments in certain parts of this country that are treating blacks differently than whites.

That fact does NOT necessarily apply to ALL police departments. That, too, is a fact.

Until you show proof that the Mission Bay police department is just like the Ferguson PD, then all you've done is slandered the policemen and women of Mission Bay.

Look, I get it that most white people view anything to do with the police as challenging their authority. That's why so many folks are always asking why the black men "didn't just cooperate" or saying stuff like "he wouldn't be dead if he just hadn't resisted arrest".

The relationship of Blacks with the police isn't the same as is the relationship of Whites with the police. Whites haven't been treated the way that Blacks have by police.

So you say over-generalization and Blacks will tell you that you can't overgeneralize the truth.
Yes, you can. Every time you imply "all," you overgeneralize the truth. And every time you say "police" without a qualifier like "some," "most," or "all," then you're implying "all." And that's called an overgeneralization.

How many are dead? How many folks that you see everyday who look like you are being shot dead by the police ? How many are you seeing with their voice boxes crushed and their spines broken into? How many folks who look like you are you seeing jumped on the streets and choked and sent into cardiac arrest? How many kids who look like you are you seeing shot and killed within two seconds of a police officer arriving on the scene? How many folks like you are you seeing killed because they pick up a toy gun in a Wal Mart?

When the folks who look like you aren't being killed for doing the same things that Blacks are doing, I guess I can see how you'd think it's an over-generalization.

But I repeat, their reality with the police isn't the same as your reality with the police.
And there you go assuming I'm not black again.

So ask your black friends.
Done. The answer is, "I don't know."

You know better than I do if it applies to you. How can I include you in something that doesn't apply to you? Like I said, if it doesn't apply to you, then YOU aren't included in the Y'all.
Well, that doesn't make a lick of sense. You spoke to me; you said "y'all," indicating me and other folks; but now you're trying to say that only I can tell if you actually meant me or not.

No, son, it doesn't work that way. You either meant to include me, or you would have said "they," indicating other folks.

You have the audacity to say what you do after this in correcting me after telling yet another lie? Did I not say a whole lot of racially prejudiced and racist personalities?

If I want to point out INDIVIDUALS as racist or racially prejudiced, you can be darn sure that I will.
In that case, not everyone in the KKK is racist, correct?

All I did was say that you're calling people racist. I didn't say how many, I didn't say which ones. YOU did, when you said a whole lot of racially prejudiced personalities are on this board.

I take back my lie. You said group. Now lets see if you take back the litany you've told.
Tell me what I've specifically lied about.

Is US lost?
Evangelism in the context of those people you believe need to be educated and saved from their racist viewpoints.

What's evident is that you have a reading problem and YOU are a LIAR. See how easy it was for me to type that? Likewise, if I want to call someone on this board a racist, you can QUOTE it because that's exactly what you will see typed on the screen.:thumbs:
Again, point out specifically what I've lied about. I haven't lied about you at all. You've indicated people on this board have racist viewpoints, thereby indicating that they're racist. If that's not what you meant, then you should clarify.
 

Zaac

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Reality is based on facts. The fact is that we have police departments in certain parts of this country that are treating blacks differently than whites.

That fact does NOT necessarily apply to ALL police departments. That, too, is a fact.

Until you show proof that the Mission Bay police department is just like the Ferguson PD, then all you've done is slandered the policemen and women of Mission Bay.

Why the double standard Don? Blacks must confront reality. Blacks this and Blacks that by you and the majority on this board and in the church and on tv. Why must I present proof when generalizing about white police officers , yet no one has to present proof when generalizing about Blacks?

As I said in the other thread, there's a method to my madness. And you just revealed the double standard as did Rolf.

Blacks knows that no matter what white folks do and no matter how they behave, those behaviors will never be discussed as evidence of some race-based group identity.

And so when white men brawl in the streets at a St. Patrick’s Day parade in New York, as was recently captured on video, not only will none of the violent men in question be arrested, but it will fail to register even a blip in the media culture that was so quick to discuss the recent fight amongst black girls at a Brooklyn McDonalds. And needless to say, when covered, it won’t lead to pronouncements about the cultural dysfunction of white men and their tendency to over-consume alcohol, even as the fight involving African American youth was met with just such a culturally-inscribed narrative.

So too, when a white family in Idaho initiates a deadly brawl at the local Walmart, as happened recently, no one in FOX News-land will opine as to the white cultural or genetic rot at the heart of such behavior.

Black America knows that white males can pummel each other senseless in a hockey rink and not worry that such violence might be viewed as a reflection of white people’s lack of impulse control or thuggish natures, unlike the way brawls involving black athletes are often viewed, especially on a basketball court.

Black America knows that a white frat boy can fire a weapon at a rival fraternity and not have it seen as evidence of something inherent to preppy white kids and their penchant for gunplay.

Black America knows that when white folks riot, overturning cars, starting fires and throwing rocks and beer cans at police—either because it’s “Pumpkin Fest” time in Keene, New Hampshire, or because of the results of a sporting event, or a sporting event, or a sporting event, or a sporting event, or perhaps yet another sporting event, or maybe yet another sporting event, or because what else is there to do in Iowa? or because of a surfer festival—there will be no long exegetical ruminations about the brokenness of white families, the pathology of our communities, or the need for whites as a group to “take personal responsibility” for our savage young people.

---Tim Wise


Yes, you can. Every time you imply "all," you overgeneralize the truth. And every time you say "police" without a qualifier like "some," "most," or "all," then you're implying "all." And that's called an overgeneralization.

So what's it called when white folks do it? What's it called when white folks do it all the time about Blacks and the Black community? What's it called when rolf doesn't want to generalize about trigger-happy , racists white cops, but folks on this board again and again generalize about Blacks?

And there you go assuming I'm not black again.

I KNOW you're not Black. I'm around black people all the time. You're not black.


Done. The answer is, "I don't know."

That was awfully quick. Can you count them on one hand? Go over to BET online and ask them. Or go to one of the other predominantly Black message boards and ask them the hypothetical.

DRT is what they are gonna say because, unlike you, they deal with the reality of white police officers killing Blacks all the time.


Well, that doesn't make a lick of sense. You spoke to me; you said "y'all," indicating me and other folks; but now you're trying to say that only I can tell if you actually meant me or not.

makes plenty of sense. If you're not guilty of the action, then you aren't included in the YALL.

No, son, it doesn't work that way. You either meant to include me, or you would have said "they," indicating other folks.


As I've said repeatedly to the very rude RD2, my dad is dead and has been in the ground for 20+ years.

I'm not your son. I'm not your boy. The name is ZAAC just as it says on the screen.


In that case, not everyone in the KKK is racist, correct?

They aren't. There are folks in the KKK because their family forces them to be in the KKK.

All I did was say that you're calling people racist. I didn't say how many, I didn't say which ones. YOU did, when you said a whole lot of racially prejudiced personalities are on this board.

And all I did was say when I call someone a racist, that's what you'll read, so save your lies. So as long as you insist on telling lies about me, it's right back to IGNORE for ya.


Tell me what I've specifically lied about.

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL. Don't feign ignorance with me. That might work with some others, but it ain't gonna fly with me.

Evangelism in the context of those people you believe need to be educated and saved from their racist viewpoints.

I evangelize to the glory of Jesus. If they can't see the UnGodliness in their actions, then I'll just make sure that any poor lost person who happens upon this board knows that without a doubt they don't represent Jesus.


Again, point out specifically what I've lied about. I haven't lied about you at all.

Again, feign ignorance for someone a little bit slower.
You've indicated people on this board have racist viewpoints, thereby indicating that they're racist. If that's not what you meant, then you should clarify.

Man stop. Thereby means YOU jumped to your own conclusion. If you needed clarification, then you should have said CLARIFY. But don't say that I've said ANYTHING that I know I can read the page and clearly see that I have not said.

So again, save your lies.
 

Don

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Why the double standard Don? Blacks must confront reality. Blacks this and Blacks that by you and the majority on this board and in the church and on tv. Why must I present proof when generalizing about white police officers , yet no one has to present proof when generalizing about Blacks?

As I said in the other thread, there's a method to my madness. And you just revealed the double standard as did Rolf.
I have no idea what double standard you think I revealed. I'm not even sure I've participated in any of those "blacks this and blacks that" threads you're talking about. Please feel free to go back to them and find a post from me in them.

So what's it called when white folks do it? What's it called when white folks do it all the time about Blacks and the Black community? What's it called when rolf doesn't want to generalize about trigger-happy , racists white cops, but folks on this board again and again generalize about Blacks?
Over-generalization. The term is color-blind.

I KNOW you're not Black. I'm around black people all the time. You're not black.
What? You want me to start using poor grammar? Siding with you because we're talking about skin color, rather than what's right and what's wrong?

Just because I choose to try to represent myself as educated, I'm not black?

Sounds like YOU have a pretty narrow view of what black people are supposed to act like.

That was awfully quick. Can you count them on one hand? Go over to BET online and ask them. Or go to one of the other predominantly Black message boards and ask them the hypothetical.

DRT is what they are gonna say because, unlike you, they deal with the reality of white police officers killing Blacks all the time.
Oh, puh-leeze. You think this is the only place I talk about issues? That I haven't been discussing these events with people face-to-face? That I waited for you to say, "go talk to your black friends" before I did so?

You used to be a somewhat rational voice. You've lost all objectivity and rationality with regards to this issue.

makes plenty of sense. If you're not guilty of the action, then you aren't included in the YALL.

As I've said repeatedly to the very rude RD2, my dad is dead and has been in the ground for 20+ years.

I'm not your son. I'm not your boy. The name is ZAAC just as it says on the screen.
Oh, just answer the question. Did you mean to include me or not? If you won't answer, then the obvious conclusion is that you did -- because everyone else that understands grammar understands that an inclusive pronoun includes the person it was directed at.

They aren't. There are folks in the KKK because their family forces them to be in the KKK.
AGREED.

And all I did was say when I call someone a racist, that's what you'll read, so save your lies. So as long as you insist on telling lies about me, it's right back to IGNORE for ya.

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL. Don't feign ignorance with me. That might work with some others, but it ain't gonna fly with me.
And again, you won't point to where I specifically lied about you. So go ahead and put me on ignore.

I evangelize to the glory of Jesus. If they can't see the UnGodliness in their actions, then I'll just make sure that any poor lost person who happens upon this board knows that without a doubt they don't represent Jesus.
On this matter, I agree with you.

Again, feign ignorance for someone a little bit slower.

Man stop. Thereby means YOU jumped to your own conclusion. If you needed clarification, then you should have said CLARIFY. But don't say that I've said ANYTHING that I know I can read the page and clearly see that I have not said.

So again, save your lies.
No feigning of ignorance. If I've lied about you, then you should easily be able to point out what that lie was. In accordance with Matthew 18, you would then tell me the offense, not just that I offended you; and afford me the opportunity to be restored.

"Thereby" does not mean someone has jumped to a conclusion; it means a conclusion was reached based on the preceding evidence. I presented your comments; what other conclusion is anyone supposed to reach, if not that you're indicating certain people with certain racist viewpoints are racist?

You're attempting to hide behind vagueness and innuendo; and it apparently annoys you to death that someone's not falling for it.

In fact, quit straddling the fence. Be a man. If you think people have racist viewpoints, then tell them straight up they're being racist.
 

Don

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Ya know what, Zaac? Obviously you and I are not going to agree. All we're doing is talking past each other, and not accomplishing anything productive whatsoever.

You put me on ignore, I'll put you on ignore; and neither of us will have to worry about our blood pressure meds.
 

Jedi Knight

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Don thats a good start but I think BB should do us all a favor.........do a poll to see if members want that troll here. :smilewinkgrin:
 
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just-want-peace

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Don thats a good start but I think BB should do us all a favor.........do a poll to see if members want that troll here. :smilewinkgrin:

If everyone who is aggravated by his inane posting would just put him on ignore, he won't hang around long as nobody will answer him.
 

righteousdude2

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If everyone who is aggravated by his inane posting would just put him on ignore, he won't hang around long as nobody will answer him.

Great point. The mods are aware, and seem to let his narrow views of race baiting continue. Like a forest fire, this person is growing out of control.

The problem with him is that he canonly see life in America, as ' black and white!' :sleeping_2:
 

righteousdude2

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Ya know what, Zaac? Obviously you and I are not going to agree. All we're doing is talking past each other, and not accomplishing anything productive whatsoever.

You put me on ignore, I'll put you on ignore; and neither of us will have to worry about our blood pressure meds.

Order more meds Don .... this color blind race baiting troll ain't going away very soon. He loves us cliquish, fat, old white racist, good old boys here at the Baptist Board. :laugh:
 
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