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This Is Child Abuse

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
This is an old argument (some people say the same about the mmr vaccine, others any vaccination).

It is understandable. Some people are afraid of vaccines, and most people think "it won't happen to me (or my kids) when it comes to diseases. Unfortunately it often does.

Nothing new under the sun.
 

nonaeroterraqueous

Active Member
Yes, it is child abuse. The risk of COVID for children is far less than the risks inherent in the vaccine. Parents who submit their children to this are monsters.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
Yes, it is child abuse. The risk of COVID for children is far less than the risks inherent in the vaccine. Parents who submit their children to this are monsters.
The risks are very small in either case. I wouldn’t call parents “monsters” because they vaccinated the kids.

Let every person be convinced in their own minds. I’m am against all mandates.

peace to you
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Yes, it is child abuse. The risk of COVID for children is far less than the risks inherent in the vaccine. Parents who submit their children to this are monsters.
At this time your post is false. About 700 kids have died from covid. This is far less than those adults who have died. But part of the issue is hospitalizations and spreading covid.

The number of children who have died of a covid vaccinations is far less than those who have died of covid. Your post is speculation.
 

Reynolds

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Yes, it is child abuse. The risk of COVID for children is far less than the risks inherent in the vaccine. Parents who submit their children to this are monsters.
For every child that is vaccine injured, child abuse charges should be brought against ALL involved in giving that child the vax.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
For every child that is vaccine injured, child abuse charges should be brought against ALL involved in giving that child the vax.
Are you willing to apply this to the parent of every unvacvinated child who suffers or dies from the virus?
 

Reynolds

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Are you willing to apply this to the parent of every unvacvinated child who suffers or dies from the virus?
Giving the vaccine is a direct, provable, cause of injury. You can not prove vax would have prevented Covid or Covid injury/death.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Giving the vaccine is a direct, provable, cause of injury. You can not prove vax would have prevented Covid or Covid injury/death.
Refraining from preventative medicine can just as easily be taken as child abuse. In fact, there is a Supreme Court decision regarding vaccinations and the children who refuse to have them vaccinated.
 

kathleenmariekg

Active Member
Parents that refuse to give their children chemotherapy often lose custody of them. Parents that don't take their children for enough checkups can lose custody of them. Laws are not always right or fair. The courts sometimes care more about tradition and pride and so many other things more than they care about justice.

Very few parents are monsters. Parents are just grown up babies, trying to keep as many people alive as possible, with the resources and knowledge that they have been given. Parents that give less, because they have been given less to give, are not monsters. The monsters are the people in power with the control of the resources and knowledge.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
Parents that refuse to give their children chemotherapy often lose custody of them. Parents that don't take their children for enough checkups can lose custody of them. Laws are not always right or fair. The courts sometimes care more about tradition and pride and so many other things more than they care about justice.

Very few parents are monsters. Parents are just grown up babies, trying to keep as many people alive as possible, with the resources and knowledge that they have been given. Parents that give less, because they have been given less to give, are not monsters. The monsters are the people in power with the control of the resources and knowledge.
The sad part in those cases is both sides are trying to look after the welfare of the child.

How would you feel if you were a doctor who could save a child's life if the parent would allow?

How would you feel if you were a parent who believed the medical treatment would kill your child, or if you believed God was commanding against medical treatment?

The problem is people do not care about truth. Each side wants to make the other a villain. But both sides (politicians excluded) believe they are doing what is right.
 

Reynolds

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The sad part in those cases is both sides are trying to look after the welfare of the child.

How would you feel if you were a doctor who could save a child's life if the parent would allow?

How would you feel if you were a parent who believed the medical treatment would kill your child, or if you believed God was commanding against medical treatment?

The problem is people do not care about truth. Each side wants to make the other a villain. But both sides (politicians excluded) believe they are doing what is right.
If the medical field was concerned about saving life, they would oppose abortion in great numbers and be very vocal about it. Very rarely see Doctors involved in stopping abortion. They are usually defending it.

If the courts were interested in saving life, they would outlaw abortion.
It's not about life. It is about money.
 

Two Wings

Well-Known Member
Are you willing to apply this to the parent of every unvacvinated child who suffers or dies from the virus?
If there was intent to expose the child to the virus, yes.

Clearly there is intent to accept what the jab IS when directing the injection of the cv vax. Understanding what the cv vax IS, however, is the lacking knowledge problem.
I know you vehemently disagree with what the cv vax IS ...

But to your question ... with the stipulation as written, yes.

This health emergency should have been over a year ago.
 

JonC

Moderator
Moderator
If there was intent to expose the child to the virus, yes.

Clearly there is intent to accept what the jab IS when directing the injection of the cv vax. Understanding what the cv vax IS, however, is the lacking knowledge problem.
I know you vehemently disagree with what the cv vax IS ...

But to your question ... with the stipulation as written, yes.

This health emergency should have been over a year ago.
I disagree. Parents make are responsible for their children regarding protecting them from potential hazards, not intending on exposing them to hazards.

That said, I am not advocating charging a parent with child abuse for having their children vaccinated or for keeping them from getting g vaccinated. I believe those who would do either ate foolishly assuming a role that does not belong to them.

Parents want the best for their children and will have then get the shot or keep them from getting the shot....in both cases to protect their child.
 

Two Wings

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Parents make are responsible for their children

yes, they are ... and they should have good information to make good decisions and they don't have that because all that is being issued is the promotion of the cv vax for all. ALL do not need it.

the risk to kids virtually nonexistent so even if there were almost non-existent risks of adverse effects, there'd STILL be no need to inject kids with this stuff.

There's really only a very small group of people who might actually benefit from the cv vax --- those who are susceptible and have more than, say, 10 years remaining of legitimate life expectancy. Inside 10 years ... something's about to get you anyway.
 

JonC

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Moderator
yes, they are ... and they should have good information to make good decisions and they don't have that because all that is being issued is the promotion of the cv vax for all. ALL do not need it.

the risk to kids virtually nonexistent so even if there were almost non-existent risks of adverse effects, there'd STILL be no need to inject kids with this stuff.

There's really only a very small group of people who might actually benefit from the cv vax --- those who are susceptible and have more than, say, 10 years remaining of legitimate life expectancy. Inside 10 years ... something's about to get you anyway.
They should have good information. Unfortunately the biggest (granted not only) source of misinformation has been the anti-covid-vaxers.

Found out today we lost another to covid. One of my wife's friends lost a grandson (in his early 30's). No preexisting conditions. This makes 2 since Oct.
 
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