This Quote Says Everything About The GOP's Shutdown Stand

[Revmitchell]

It's been the law for 4 years. Why should its implementation be delayed?

Why should the corporate mandate be delayed?

 

[Salty]

It's been the law for 4 years. Why should its implementation be delayed?

Slavery was the law for over 4 score - why should there have been a change made?

 

[saturneptune]

Hmmm ... let's see:

GOP: Wants the ACA dead or dismembered.
DP: Wants the ACA fully implemented.

GOP: Full disclosure on Benghazi, the IRS, NSA, etc.
DP: "Doesn't matter."

GOP: Taxes shouldn't be increased for anyone and that wages should be set by the free market.
DP: Minimum wages and progressive taxation i.e. higher tax rates for higher income brackets.

GOP: Increased spending for military, intelligence, preparedness.
DP: Decreased spending for all the above.

GOP: Oppose (though some Republicans disagree) gay marriage.
DP: Support (though some Democrats disagree( gay marriage.

GOP: Abortion should not be legal; oppose Roe v. Wade (some Republicans disagree)
DP: Abortion should not be made illegal; support Roe v. Wade (some Democrats disagree).

GOP: A large majority of Republicans support the death penalty.
DP: While support for the death penalty is strong among Democrats, opponents of the death penalty are a substantial fraction of the Democratic base.

GOP: Gun control should be the minimum required to assure criminals and terrorists don't acquire guns.
DP: Gun control is strongly supported among many, but some believe gun availability should be severely curtailed or eliminated all together.

GOP: Social and human ideas are based on individual rights and justice.
DP: Social and human ideas are based on community and social responsibility.

GOP: The free enterprise system that has brought about economic growth and innovations that have made this country great, and people should be encouraged by the government to use their talents and abilities to stimulate a healthy and constantly growing business environment.
DP: The economy is too complicated to be successfully navigated by any one person and should therefore be guided by government officials and in the best interests of the labor unions.

GOP: All students, regardless of race or socioeconomic background, should become proficient in both reading and math, and that schools should be held accountable for student progress through testing, which can be used to identify individual childrens’ needs, and ensure educator accountability.
DP: Tests burden teachers and waste classroom instruction time. They also believe children should be forced to stay in schools that fail to teach the basic skills, further arguing that literacy should be left for teachers’ unions to define rather than local PTAs or other parent groups.

GOP: Respecting the enrichment of society and contributions to the economy immigrants have brought to this country while viewing the lack of security along our borders as contributing to the flow of narco-trafficking, gang violence, and the yearly forced servitude and slavery of over 50,000 women and children from foreign countries by human smugglers, making it necessary to enforce immigration policies that provides border security so as to ensure the safety of all citizens.
DP: As the world superpower, it is a fundamental requirement of the United States to provide unconditional aid and comfort to the citizens of other nations, which requires open borders, unconditional amnesty, and laws of this nation to be curtailed to provide non-emergency assistance and legal forms of identification to foreign nationals, legal or illegal in standing.

The only ones who have been dropped on their heads at birth are the parrots around here that keep chanting "there is no difference" between the political parties. Put a sock in it. It's growing tiresome.

Being a world's superpower has nothing to do with governing under the Constitution and serving the people. All the entanglement you seem to favor also has nothing to do with the Constitution, neither does the comparisons you make. In other words, the gap you have created is unconstitutional.

 

[Don]

So would this hypothetical Republican President be an intractable, bull-headed non-negotiator? Or is he standing up for his principles and his signature legislative triumph?

Is he standing up for HIS principles, or is he working for the people of his country?

 

[Don]

It's been the law for 4 years. Why should its implementation be delayed?

Um...because it isn't working the way it was sold to us?

If you buy a truck because you were told it had 4-wheel drive and you really need something with 4-wheel drive, and you find out just as you're buying it that it doesn't have 4-wheel drive, and by the way, it's going to cost more than you were originally told, and when you ask why and are told that some changes had to be made, do you still want the truck?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Being a world's superpower has nothing to do with governing under the Constitution and serving the people. All the entanglement you seem to favor also has nothing to do with the Constitution, neither does the comparisons you make. In other words, the gap you have created is unconstitutional.

S/N, my brother, in light of what I posted, this comment makes no sense. Let's put it to rest and remain brothers, shall we?

 

[HankD]

It's been the law for 4 years. Why should its implementation be delayed?

Because it was the outcome of an illegal bill:

...but we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it...

the consent of the governed (we the people) was not even considered but ramroded down our collective throat.


HankD

 

[saturneptune]

S/N, my brother, in light of what I posted, this comment makes no sense. Let's put it to rest and remain brothers, shall we?

I believe we will always remain brothers. Our point of difference has nothing to do with our view of the Democrats and their platforms and theory of governing. We totally agree with the each other on their stance of governing. It is basically not only unconstitutional, but evil. It stifles individual liberty and freedom. It destroys the desire in each human being to excel and be accountable for ones own actions.

Our point of disagreement is the present state of the Republican Party. When I say present state, I mean since Ronald Reagan. I also mean the part of the Republican Party that is not conservative now controlled by leaders like Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. Sometimes they are referred to as RINOs. They are characterized by being lead by the demands of the Democrat side, with no leadership of their part. For example, the only reason the Republicans had nerve enough to demand a reevaluation of Obamacare, is the House and Senate members of the conservative wing such as Senators Paul and Cruz.

One cannot seriously think the Republicans are a serious opposition to the Democrats and nominate the two Bushes, McCain and Romney. Romney himself is the author of government controlled health care. Romney at one time or another is/has been for gun control, abortion, and gay rights. Doing a 180 to run for President does not make it.

You have heard over and over it said by Republicans in the last few days that Obamacare is not ready for prime time. That is true. It is also true the Republicans are not ready for prime time when it comes to battling the agenda of the Democrats. The first battle must be won first. That battle is electing more people like Rand Paul and getting rid of people like Mitch McConnell at the polls. Then and only then will there be any serious power enough to root out the Democrats nonsense.

 

[Rippon]

That battle is electing more people like Rand Paul and getting rid of people like Mitch McConnell at the polls. Then and only then will there be any serious power enough to root out the Democrats nonsense.

Not that there are no differences between the two;but lately they have appeared rather chummy. Have you heard about the hot mike?

Besides,Ron has endorsed Mitch over that of a Tea Pary candidate -- Matt Bevin. So are you willing to dump Rand because he's pals with Mitch now?

 

[saturneptune]

Not that there are no differences between the two;but lately they have appeared rather chummy. Have you heard about the hot mike?

Besides,Ron has endorsed Mitch over that of a Tea Pary candidate -- Matt Bevin. So are you willing to dump Rand because he's pals with Mitch now?

What I am willing to do is for you to worry about Chinese politics and leave ours alone.

 

[Rippon]

What I am willing to do is for you to worry about Chinese politics and leave ours alone.

So when you are cornered you try to deflect in your little boy manner. I am sorry to have stymied you.

I have had to explain the obvious before: Tom and I live in China, and John lives in Japan. We are expatriates. That means we are, in this case, citizens of America living abroad. While thousands of miles from US soil we haven't abdicated our citizenship. So I have the perfect right to comment on American politics. Got that?...Good.

To keep a balance -- A professing Christian should pay more attention to their heavenly citizenship compared to their earthly one. You seem to thrive on the earthly plane to the neglect of the other.

 

[saturneptune]

So when you are cornered you try to deflect in your little boy manner. I am sorry to have stymied you.

I have had to explain the obvious before: Tom and I live in China, and John lives in Japan. We are expatriates. That means we are, in this case, citizens of America living abroad. While thousands of miles from US soil we haven't abdicated our citizenship. So I have the perfect right to comment on American politics. Got that?...Good.

To keep a balance -- A professing Christian should pay more attention to their heavenly citizenship compared to their earthly one. You seem to thrive on the earthly plane to the neglect of the other.

I am not a professing Christian, I am a Christian. BB rules forbid me from commenting on your salvation, so I will not.

As far as Tom and John goes, they give evidence of being Christian and it is well known they are American citizens. As far as my balance between earth and heaven, that is between me and the Lord, and none of your business.

The next time you give false information about Kentucky politics, back up your lies at least with a fake website.

While I cannot comment on your Christianity specifically, as mentioned above, I can say that someone who is a member of the RCC would much more likely be a true Christian than someone who posts in the manner as some on this board. That does not imply or infer anything about you.

 

[Rippon]

BB rules forbid me from commenting on your salvation, so I will not.

You have questioned my savation many times on the BB. Don't lie.You have made the accusation several times in this post of yours alone. You are so inconsistent.

As far as Tom and John goes, they give evidence of being Christian and it is well known they are American citizens.

And you want to give a very loud inference that I am neither an American nor a Christian. How utterly repulsive and contradictory you are.

The next time you give false information about Kentucky politics...

You will have to demonstrate that what I said were lies in the first place. But since you can't, you play your normal school boy routine.

While I cannot comment on your Christianity specifically,

Here we go again. You are again contradicting yourself.

I can say that someone who is a member of the RCC would much more likely be a true Christian than someone who posts in the manner as some on this board. That does not imply or infer anything about you.

Oh of course not!

You are a piece of work, I'll give you that.

S/N said in reference to Rippon :"For the most part we are in complete agreement on theology, especially on sovereignty." 5/29/13

I will have to disagree with you there,because on 4/1/12 you said:"We were elected before the foundation of the world to exercise free choice."

Those are not the words of someone with reformed convictions. It sounds quite Arminian.

 

[saturneptune]

You have questioned my savation many times on the BB. Don't lie.You have made the accusation several times in this post of yours alone. You are so inconsistent.


And you want to give a very loud inference that I am neither an American nor a Christian. How utterly repulsive and contradictory you are.


You will have to demonstrate that what I said were lies in the first place. But since you can't, you play your normal school boy routine.


Here we go again. You are again contradicting yourself.

Oh of course not!

You are a piece of work, I'll give you that.

S/N said in reference to Rippon :"For the most part we are in complete agreement on theology, especially on sovereignty." 5/29/13

I will have to disagree with you there,because on 4/1/12 you said:"We were elected before the foundation of the world to exercise free choice."

Those are not the words of someone with reformed convictions. It sounds quite Arminian.

As you will recall, you were told where to file your archives.

 

[Rippon]

Not that there are no differences between the two;but lately they have appeared rather chummy. Have you heard about the hot mike?

Besides,Ron has endorsed Mitch over that of a Tea Pary candidate -- Matt Bevin. So are you willing to dump Rand because he's pals with Mitch now?

S/N's remark about the above was :"The next time you give false information about Kentucky politics,back up your lies at least with a fake website."

Could anyone here either clearly confirm or deny that what I said above were lies? Perhaps even a non-Kentuckian might be better able to handle it.

 

[Aaron]

SN's off his meds. Just ignore him.

 

[Rippon]

SN's off his meds. Just ignore him.

I knew he was off his ever lovin' rocker;but off his meds too. He needs supervision.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

He needs to chill. He's a good guy, just going thru a rough time.