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This Will Start WW3

canadyjd

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I’m a little sick of people claiming if we help Ukraine fight the madman Putin, it will cause WW3.

It’s already WW3, unless we can stop this insanity. If you think Pouting Putin can be appeased with anything less than re-establishing the former Soviet borders, you aren’t thinking clearly.

peace to you
 

Aaron

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A NATO country lending arms. This is an escalation, and Putin will respond. I fully expect a global conflict. Brought to you by the great steal of 2020.
 

agedman

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Putin started when his army marched unopposed into the Crimean area in 2014.

Just as Hitler did by taking over Poland, the world decided to leave him alone, and it wasn't long until nearly all Europe, the middle east and northern Africa were his playground.

I agree that we have but the beginning of great sorrows.

America will not fall by invasion, for there are too many citizens that know how to use guns, and own them.

America will fall because someone is going to push a button.
 

AustinC

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Putin started when his army marched unopposed into the Crimean area in 2014.

Just as Hitler did by taking over Poland, the world decided to leave him alone, and it wasn't long until nearly all Europe, the middle east and northern Africa were his playground.

I agree that we have but the beginning of great sorrows.

America will not fall by invasion, for there are too many citizens that know how to use guns, and own them.

America will fall because someone is going to push a button.
When I read these following words, I think of New York City...
Revelation 18:1-20
After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. And he called out with a mighty voice, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place for demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast. For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.” Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Pay her back as she herself has paid back others, and repay her double for her deeds; mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed. As she glorified herself and lived in luxury, so give her a like measure of torment and mourning, since in her heart she says, ‘I sit as a queen, I am no widow, and mourning I shall never see.’ For this reason her plagues will come in a single day, death and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.” And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning. They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come.” And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore, cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls. “The fruit for which your soul longed has gone from you, and all your delicacies and your splendors are lost to you, never to be found again!” The merchants of these wares, who gained wealth from her, will stand far off, in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning aloud, “Alas, alas, for the great city that was clothed in fine linen, in purple and scarlet, adorned with gold, with jewels, and with pearls! For in a single hour all this wealth has been laid waste.” And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, “What city was like the great city?” And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out, “Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! For in a single hour she has been laid waste. Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets, for God has given judgment for you against her!”
 

Benjamin

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We already have several NATO countries supplying all kinds of weaponry but not help with fighting and I understand the plan is to have Ukrainian pilots fly these jets in so it is merely more Ukraine resistance he will have to contend with while he tries to take over a country with 44 million people that don't want any part of it.

If something starts a WWIII it will probably be related to Putin attacking civilian populations on a mass scale to try to break the will of the people. However, I doubt Putin has the guts or is foolish enough to cross any line that end up being his complete demise.
 

agedman

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When I read these following words, I think of New York City...
Revelation 18:1-20
After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. And he called out with a mighty voice, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place for demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast. For all nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.” Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Pay her back as she herself has paid back others, and repay her double for her deeds; mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed. As she glorified herself and lived in luxury, so give her a like measure of torment and mourning, since in her heart she says, ‘I sit as a queen, I am no widow, and mourning I shall never see.’ For this reason her plagues will come in a single day, death and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.” And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning. They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say, “Alas! Alas! You great city, you mighty city, Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come.” And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore, cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls. “The fruit for which your soul longed has gone from you, and all your delicacies and your splendors are lost to you, never to be found again!” The merchants of these wares, who gained wealth from her, will stand far off, in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning aloud, “Alas, alas, for the great city that was clothed in fine linen, in purple and scarlet, adorned with gold, with jewels, and with pearls! For in a single hour all this wealth has been laid waste.” And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, “What city was like the great city?” And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out, “Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! For in a single hour she has been laid waste. Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets, for God has given judgment for you against her!”

Interesting alignment.

I recall being told of a book written about something along the lines of the demise.

But, I honestly have no opinion.

I used to teach that America could be the Babylon, but that was over 30 years ago. I think I even presented that America could be on the BB a few years back.

With all that the world power shifting, I wonder if the late Dr. Stanley Toussaint may not be correct. He at one time considered Rome as the Babylon, but in his later years changed to the thinking that the ancient Babylon would again rise as both a religious force and a political force, both needing destroyed.

Again, I am having no opinion, but certainly watching and looking up as the Savior said to do.

Our redemption is nearer then it was a year ago, but still may be a long time coming.

It is up to the Father. We only see the signs and can be encouraged by His faithfulness.
 

SavedByGrace

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We already have several NATO countries supplying all kinds of weaponry but not help with fighting and I understand the plan is to have Ukrainian pilots fly these jets in so it is merely more Ukraine resistance he will have to contend with while he tries to take over a country with 44 million people that don't want any part of it.

If something starts a WWIII it will probably be related to Putin attacking civilian populations on a mass scale to try to break the will of the people. However, I doubt Putin has the guts or is foolish enough to cross any line that end up being his complete demise.

is it not the fact, that a NATO, European country, Poland, that is actually supplying the aircraft that belongs to them, though flown by Ukrainian pilots, is another country entering this conflict? I expect that Putin will take action againt Poland, though he might not do so directly.
 

SavedByGrace

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Interesting alignment.

I recall being told of a book written about something along the lines of the demise.

But, I honestly have no opinion.

I used to teach that America could be the Babylon, but that was over 30 years ago. I think I even presented that America could be on the BB a few years back.

With all that the world power shifting, I wonder if the late Dr. Stanley Toussaint may not be correct. He at one time considered Rome as the Babylon, but in his later years changed to the thinking that the ancient Babylon would again rise as both a religious force and a political force, both needing destroyed.

Again, I am having no opinion, but certainly watching and looking up as the Savior said to do.

Our redemption is nearer then it was a year ago, but still may be a long time coming.

It is up to the Father. We only see the signs and can be encouraged by His faithfulness.

The whole godless world system of countries that are openly against the God of the Bible, and Jesus Christ, is probably "Babylon", and not one country. This is also probably true of Paul's "Man of Lawlessness", in 2 Thessalonians, 2, which is not a person.
 

agedman

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The whole godless world system of countries that are openly against the God of the Bible, and Jesus Christ, is probably "Babylon", and not one country. This is also probably true of Paul's "Man of Lawlessness", in 2 Thessalonians, 2, which is not a person.
This is interesting point.

John stated that there are many anti-christs in the world.

However, of the many, there will come (imo) that central figure rising above all the others. A Nero like person, who is totally narcissistic, and has less than a decade to live his dream of world power.
 

SavedByGrace

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This is interesting point.

John stated that there are many anti-christs in the world.

However, of the many, there will come (imo) that central figure rising above all the others. A Nero like person, who is totally narcissistic, and has less than a decade to live his dream of world power.

very possibly, as I can remember years ago reading, that someone had calculated, the number 666, in Revelation, read both Nero and Hitler! I wonder if it can also read Putin.
 

Benjamin

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is it not the fact, that a NATO, European country, Poland, that is actually supplying the aircraft that belongs to them, though flown by Ukrainian pilots, is another country entering this conflict?
Not any more than other countries giving missiles is entering the conflict.
Update, US rejects Polands offer of aircraft
The offer rejected was using our air bases in Germany to deliver them, other than that SOS Blinken has given the green light to proceed.
 

Aaron

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We already have several NATO countries supplying all kinds of weaponry but not help with fighting and I understand the plan is to have Ukrainian pilots fly these jets in so it is merely more Ukraine resistance he will have to contend with while he tries to take over a country with 44 million people that don't want any part of it.

If something starts a WWIII it will probably be related to Putin attacking civilian populations on a mass scale to try to break the will of the people. However, I doubt Putin has the guts or is foolish enough to cross any line that end up being his complete demise.
I shoulda said another NATO country. Anyway, aircraft is whole different animal, but it appears that Biden's masters put the kibosh on that. They are scared to death of a global conflict. Their NWO is in jeopardy.
 

Reynolds

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With some of the things you say on here I have to wonder if you wear a tinfoil hat when you go outside.
One word ld be a fool not to recognize that Joe and Hunter are into dirty Ukranian money. You can safely assume that if Dem power brokers are involved, so are Republicans as well.
 
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