Three days and three nights

[rstrats]

Gerhard Ebersoehn,

re: "...I don't understand your OP."
　
　
　
The request: I wonder if anyone knows of any writing which shows a phrase stating a specific number of days and/or a specific number of nights being used in the first century or before when it absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights?

What specifically do you not understand?

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Gerhard Ebersoehn,

re: "...I don't understand your OP."
　
　
　
The request: I wonder if anyone knows of any writing which shows a phrase stating a specific number of days and/or a specific number of nights being used in the first century or before when it absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights?

What specifically do you not understand?

If this is a quiz game and you wanted me to play, I would gues you mean Matthew 12:40.

Unfortunately I find the game boring.

 

[rstrats]

Gerhard Ebersoehn,


You have a question directed to you in post #61.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Gerhard Ebersoehn,


You have a question directed to you in post #61.

If it is nothing you have to say, please don't say it!

Thanks.

But I have a strong feeling you are the one who doesn't understand the "three days and three nights" spoken of in Matthew 12:40.

So, thank me for explaining to you the "Three days thick darkness" of Jesus' "SUFFERING-PASSOVER OF YAHWEH" ...

All these Scriptures are in PERFECT AGREEMENT in every respect :


Abib 14, Wednesday night and Thursday day = Fifth Day ....

1A) HERE BEGINS the NIGHT and the FIRST of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
wherein Jesus ENTERED IN in “the Kingdom of my Father” (Jesus’ Jonah’s descent to hell) :–
Mk14:12/17; Mt26:17/20; Lk22:7/14; Jn13:1.

1B) HERE BEGINS the MORNING of the FIRST of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
in which Jesus was delivered and crucified :–
Mk15:1/Mt27:1/Lk23:1/Jn19:14

1C) HERE is the LATE NOON AND MID–AFTERNOON of the FIRST of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
when Jesus DIED and was deserted by all :–
Mk15:37–41; Mk27:50–56; Lk23:44–49; Jn19:28–30


. . . . . .
Abib 15, Thursday night and Friday day = Sixth Day ....

2A) HERE BEGINS the SECOND of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
the day whereon Joseph WOULD BURY the body of Jesus :–
Mk15:42/Mt27:57, Lk23:50–51, Jn19:31/38.

2B) HERE is the NIGHT of the SECOND of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
wherein Joseph begged the body, and according to the law of the Jews – the passover’s law – undertook and prepared to bury Jesus:–
Mk15:43–46a; Mt27:58–59; Lk23:52–53a; Jn19:31b–40

2C) HERE is the LATE NOON AND MID–AFTERNOON of the SECOND of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
when Joseph and Nicodemus laid the body and closed the tomb; and men and women left for home :–
Mk15:46b–47; Mk27:60–61; Lk23:53b–56a; JN19:41–42


. . . . . . .
Abib 16, Friday night and Saturday day = Seventh Day Sabbath....

3A) HERE BEGINS the THIRD of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
THAT JESUS WOULD RISE FROM THE DEAD ON :–
Lk23:56b

3B) HERE is the MORNING of the THIRD of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
Pilate ordered a guard “for the third day” :–
Mt27:62–66

3C) HERE is “IN the Sabbath’s Fullness MID–AFTERNOON” of the THIRD of the “three days”, “according to the Scriptures” – the passover–Scriptures :–
First Sheaf Wave Offering Before the LORD :–
Mt28:1–4.

__________________________________________________ ___

Abib 17, Saturday night and Sunday day = First Day ....

4A) HERE begins the day AFTER the “three days” (fourth day of the passover season) :–
that Jesus WOULD APPEAR on :–
Mk16:1, “When the Sabbath was past ..... they BOUGHT ....”

4B) HERE is the EVENING of this day,
Jn20:1–10 Mary sees the DOOR STONE was away from the tomb (discovers tomb has been OPENED);

4C) HERE is the NIGHT of this day,
Lk24:1–10 “DEEP(EST) DARKNESS” ––– “women with their spices” and ointments go to salve the body; “they found Him NOT” (discover tomb is EMPTY);
Mk16:2–8 “very early (before) SUN’S RISING” ––– women’s return–visit to ascertain; “they fled terrified and told NNE”.

4D) Here is sunrise (‘Sunday’ morning),
Jn20:11f, Mk16:9 “Mary had had stood behind” .... saw the gardener (sunrise); “Risen, early (sunrise) on the First Day, Jesus first APPEARED to Mary ....”
Mt28:5–10 “The angel explained to the (other) women (Mt28:1–4) .... As they went to tell .... Jesus met them” (after sunrise).
Mt28:11–15 Guard to high priests.
USE BIBLES OF BEFORE THE TWENTIETH CENTURY – they are not as wangled as the later ones. And compare those ancient translations with the modern ones to see the truth of the older ones!

 

[rstrats]

Gerhard Ebersoehn,

re: "But I have a strong feeling you are the one who doesn't understand the "three days and three nights" spoken of in Matthew 12:40."


That's an issue for another topic. This one is only concerned with the request in the OP.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Gerhard Ebersoehn,

re: "But I have a strong feeling you are the one who doesn't understand the "three days and three nights" spoken of in Matthew 12:40."


That's an issue for another topic. This one is only concerned with the request in the OP.

Tedious!

Cheers.

 

[Eliyahu]

Which night else than Friday night and Saturday night did Jesus sleep in the tomb if he died on Friday?

Why does Matthew 28:1 mention the plural Sabbaths (σαββατων) ?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

I don't understand -- after decades and decades of attempting -- what 'inclusive reckoning' has to do with the 'God-given and therefore eschatological imperative whole and wholeness' [Lohmeyer's words] of Christ's "three days" of "three days and three nights", "on the third day" of which, He, "according to the Scriptures, ROSE FROM THE DEAD" again!???

That is because you don't want to understand. The Bible was not dictated by God, it was inspired by God. Men wrote in local colloquialisms and idioms of their day. The understanding that "three days from now" means today is inclusive in those three days was a fact then, and it included in the Bible for that reason, to be understood in that context. If you don't like it, then make something up. That appears to be what you've done anyway. But you will still be wrong.

 

[rstrats]

thisnumbersdisconnected,

re: " Men wrote in local colloquialisms and idioms of their day."


And that is why I started this thread - to see if there is any writing which shows a phrase stating a specific number of days and/or a specific number of nights being used in the first century or before when it absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights. So far no one has come up with any.


re: "The understanding that 'three days from now' means today is inclusive in those three days was a fact then..."


So you're saying that if someone had said on the first day of the week that they had a doctor's appointment "one day from now" that they meant that the appointment was on the first day of the week?

 

[Eliyahu]

thisnumbersdisconnected,

re: " Men wrote in local colloquialisms and idioms of their day."


And that is why I started this thread - to see if there is any writing which shows a phrase stating a specific number of days and/or a specific number of nights being used in the first century or before when it absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights. So far no one has come up with any.


re: "The understanding that 'three days from now' means today is inclusive in those three days was a fact then..."


So you're saying that if someone had said on the first day of the week that they had a doctor's appointment "one day from now" that they meant that the appointment was on the first day of the week?

What about 3 nights?

Did Jesus spend 3 nights in the tomb?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

... to see if there is any writing which shows a phrase stating a specific number of days and/or a specific number of nights being used in the first century or before when it absolutely couldn't have included at least a part of each one of the specific number of days and at least a part of each one of the specific number of nights. So far no one has come up with any.

I thought I had, but I don't see it here on this thread, unless I overlooked it. But I'll provide the proof for you now.

Luke 13, NASB
32 And He said to them, "Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'​

That is from the mouth of Jesus Himself. Do you understand what He is saying? It was on Friday, one week before the crucifixion. Jesus was going to Jerusalem on Sunday, what is incorrectly known as the "Triumphal Entry," given that the very people celebrating His arrival were the ones crying for His crucifixion by the day before the following Sabbath. He said he was working "today and tomorrow" -- Friday and Saturday -- and "the third day" -- Sunday -- He would arrive in Jerusalem. To us, two days. To Jesus and every Middle Eastern man of His day, three days. Good enough?

And by the way, I don't think it is "coincidence" He made this statement when and how He did. It was a mile marker for us, indicating the day of His crucifixion, and the day of His resurrection, proving He fulfilled His statement that He would "be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Three days, "three days and three nights," "in three days," and "on the third day" all mean the same thing. Matthew said, in v. 4:2, Jesus was in the desert "forty days and forty nights." Mark and Luke simply said "forty days." Why don't you question whether Matthew was saying something different?

 

[rstrats]

thisnumbersdisconnected,

re: "But I'll provide the proof for you now. Luke 13, NASB 32 And He said to them, 'Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'"


Nothing in that scripture is said about a specific number of daytimes or a specific number of nighttimes as requested in the OP.

 

[rstrats]

thisnumbersdisconnected,

re: "And by the way, I don't think it is 'coincidence' He made this statement when and how He did. It was a mile marker for us, indicating the day of His crucifixion, and the day of His resurrection, proving He fulfilled His statement that He would 'be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.' Three days, 'three days and three nights,' 'in three days,' and 'on the third day' all mean the same thing."

And don't forget the ones that say "after three days'.


re: "Matthew said, in v. 4:2, Jesus was in the desert 'forty days and forty nights.' Mark and Luke simply said 'forty days.' Why don't you question whether Matthew was saying something different?"


Because Mark and Luke don't preclude at least a part of each one of the forty days and at least a part of each on of the forty nights.

 

[Eliyahu]

If Jesus died on Friday and was resurrected on Sunday morning.

He could have never slept in the tomb for 3 nights.

He spent Friday night and Saturday night.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Nothing in that scripture is said about a specific number of daytimes or a specific number of nighttimes as requested in the OP.

I guess you missed the part where I said several differently worded phrases regarding "three days" or "three days and three nights" are saying the exact same thing.

 

[rstrats]

thisnumbersdisconnected,

re: "I guess you missed the part where I said several differently worded phrases regarding 'three days' or 'three days and three nights' are saying the exact same thing."


In order for you to think that, I guess you missed the part where I said that you forgot to include the ones that say "after three days". At any rate, what is your point insofar as it applies to my request in the OP?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

At any rate, what is your point insofar as it applies to my request in the OP?

I made that point a few posts back. Didn't you read it?

 

[rstrats]

Someone new looking in may know of some writing.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

The answer you're looking for is plainly represented in post #71. If you don't want to read it or believe it, that's your problem.

 

[Eliyahu]

If Jesus died on Friday and was buried on Friday, and was resurrected on Sunday before dawning,

Jesus could have spent 30 minutes of daytime of Friday in the tomb.
He spent 12 hours fully in the tomb on Saturday
Jesus could spend no daytime of Sunday because he was resurrected before dawn on Sunday.

Therefore Jesus would have spent 1 day+1/24 daytime in the tomb, which is far less than 3 nites and 3 days in Mt 12:40.


Actually He could have spent no daytime in the tomb on Friday, because it became the nighttime as soon as He was buried on Friday.
Then He could spend only one daytime plus 2 night times if He died on Friday.