Okay. I'll let Young the Literal Translator deal with what you were saying, and let's see who is ignoring what the Bible is saying. Now you say you're not a King James Version hater, take a look at your King James as well. Young, by the way, is a Modern Version:
Romans 3:22 - and the righteousness of God [is] through the faith of Jesus Christ to all, and upon all those believing, -- for there is no difference,
Galatians 2:16 - having known also that a man is not declared righteous by works of law, if not through the faith of Jesus Christ, also we in Christ Jesus did believe, that we might be declared righteous by the faith of Christ, and not by works of law, wherefore declared righteous by works of law shall be no flesh.'
Galatians 3:22 - but the Writing did shut up the whole under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ may be given to those believing.
Philippians 3:9 - not having my righteousness, which [is] of law, but that which [is] through faith of Christ ....
Then you are a humanist, and nothing else, if you say this. In the same way that Christ had to be the One who obeyed the Law, without any break and without any flaw, for His people, since they obviously cannot keep the whole Law, He also had to do the believing, and He had to have faith in what His Father promised Him, for His people's sake. That is why He alone is entitled to all glory.
You on the other hand, would raise man up by saying Christ did not have to do everything for man, and that man alone is capable of believing.
Blasphemer !
A soldier has complete understanding of what he is doing, and when he gets to the battlefield still gets overwhelmed by the conditions and the tragedies of war, but, in theory he was trained for it. Besides, he is human and knows sin intimately because sin is in him.
Christ had complete understanding of what He was doing. He knew He was doing it in accordance with His Father's will, but, you need to keep in mind, He never stopped being God, and God may know sin in the sense of defining what it is, but he does not know sin in the sense you and I know, right in our flesh !
You not only blaspheme Christ and de-glorify Him, you make Him your level, who wouldn't flinch at sin !
If it is man's faith that justifies him in the sense of getting him eternally saved, then man has no hope. And there your humanism clearly shines forth.
Abraham's faith justified him in the sense that one gets justified in putting his trust on someone because that someone proved to be the right choice.
There are many uses of the terms justified and justification in the Bible. Study some more instead of simply parroting your seminary.
Like I said, your tactic of debating is secular, attribute to your opponent what he did not say.
Review everything I have said. But, I doubt you will, not your kind. So, here goes:
- God saved His people because HE wanted to save them, not because they were worth saving, or wanted to be saved;
- Christ put on human flesh, lived as a man, and went up on that cross to save all His Father's people in order to glorify His Father and receive His Father's promises to Him and for them;
- ALL means ALL, past, present, future. Therefore, He saved all before any of His future people believed. That is what His death on the cross attained - their redemption and salvation, and when He entered heaven with His blood, He finished the atonement for ALL.
If you deny that ALL covers ALL his people, then, you deny that the believers' sins are ALL atoned for, past, present, future.
If you say that one MUST believe in order for Christ's death on that cross to be effective for him, then YOU , not I, are denying Christ His glory and placing the final outcome of His finished work on the believer's ability to believe and to be faithful.
You might as well join the 7th Day Adventists and preach Investigative Judgment.
- Therefore, if ALL that needed to be redeemed are redeemed in fact because of Christ's finished work, PRIOR belief was never required of them by God or by Christ !
- The Holy Spirit, in His own time, will regenerate ALL His people, effectually call them, INDEPENDENT of Daniel David's 'eloquent' preaching, of Daniel David's 'wisdom', and of Daniel David's 'obedience' to the 'great commission', because God doeth what He will in the armies of heaven and earth, and so why the heck does He need to rely on you to finish HIS work for Him ?
- ALL of God's people will be converted, in different ways, different degrees, to the true God, and IF perchance a gospel preacher gets to them, they will be brought to gospel obedience and a knowledge of Christ here in time but, either way, their eternal destiny is IN Christ, not in Daniel David.
A cult is one that points to personalities, and eventually, to self. I have always consistedly pointed to Christ for everything, and have always denied 'self' ability.
On the contrary, you, IFB Reformer, Terry Harrington, and others have joined voices in protest against my insistence that the cross of Christ demanded nothing from the sinner prior to his salvation.
You all insisted that its final efficacy depended on the sinner's ability to believe, which a dead, unregenerate sinner is unable to do, according to the word of God.
Now, who is a cult ?
