TNIV And HCSB Are Different

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No,you don't have to rub your eyes.I ran a thread a short time ago with a different conclusion.I'm not sure at this point if I want to devote my limited energy on other books of the Bible for this exercise.But for now we'll go to the book of Jeremiah.

H = HCSB;T = TNIV

6:14
H : They have treated My people's brokenness superficially.
T : They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious.

6:15
H : They can no longer feel humiliation.
T : they do not even know how to blush.
[ Most versions render it the same as the TNIV.The word humilation captures the idea somewhat -- but using the word "blush" is more effective.]

10:14
H : carved image
T : idols (Same as NET)
[ Isn't the TNIV wording simple?]

9:18
H : raise a lament
T : wail
[ Isn't the HCSB's wording kind of ancient?]

12:14
H : bequeathed
T : gave
[What was I saying about simplicity?]

13:4 (See also verses 7,10,11)
H : Take the underwear that you bought and are wearing
T : Take the belt you bought and are wearing around your waist
[ The NET Bible has "shorts"]

13:17
H : my innermost being will weep in secret
T : I will weep in secret
[ NET Bible : I will weep alone.]

13:18
H : Take a humble seat
T : Come down from your thrones
NET : Surrender your thrones

13:23
H : who are instructed in evil
T : who are accustomed to doing evil ( same as NET)

 

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We're In The Book Of Jeremiah

14:12
H : their cry of despair
T : their cry

16:7
H : A cup of consolation won't be given
T : No one will offer food to comfort
[Isn't the HCSB's wording sort of ancient?]

16:18
H : detestable and abhorrent idols
T : detestable idols
NET : disgusting idols
[Have you been noticing how the HCSB elaborates more than the TNIV?]

16:21
H : inform them
T : teach them

17:9
H : desperately sick
T : beyond cure
NET : incurably bad
Heb. it is incurable

17:11
H : In the middle of his days
T : when their lives are half gone

17:23 (See also 19:15)
H : obstinate
T : stiffnecked (NET almost the same)
Heb. they made stiff their necks

18:19
H : Pay attention to me (Same as NET)
T : Listen to me
[ I think the rendering of the HCSB and NET Bible sounds too weak and 21st century-like.]

19:3
H : everyone who hears about it will shutter
T : the ears of everyone who hears of it tingle
NET : ears will ring

19:6
H : Therefore,take note!
T : So beware
[ Okay, so you're going to berate me for preferring "beware",when "take note" sounds so laughable?]

19:13
H : whole heavenly host
T : all the starry hosts
[ The HCSB's wording may confuse some readers into thinking angels are being referenced.]

 

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Still In Jeremiah

22:20
H : all your lovers
T : all your allies
[The HCSB's wording corresponds to the Hebrew;but conveys silliness.]

22:21
H : you have never listened to Me
T : you have not obeyed me
[ The former wording sounds like a frustrated housewife.]

22:25
H : In fact,I will
T : I will
[ There's the CSB being unnecessarily wordy.]

22:29
h : Earth,earth,earth
T : O land,land,land
NET : O land of Judah,land of Judah,land of Judah

23:30
H : Therefore,take note!
T : Therefore
[Here we go again.See 19:6]

 

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Jeremiah

23:36
H : What is the burden of the Lord? ( Follows the Hebrew.]
T : What is the message of the Lord?

30:16
H : Your despoilers will become spoil
T : Those who plunder you will be plundered (NET is almost the same.)

31:20
H : a delightful child
T : the child in whom I delight
NET : children I take delight in

Later in the above reference:
H : My inner being yearns for him
T : My heart yearns for him
Hebrew : my stomach churns for him

33:20
H : regular time
T : appointed time

37:4
H : going about his daily tasks
T : free to come and go ( also NET)

37:10
H : there remained among them
T : were left (also NET)

 

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What Book Again?

45:5
H : every living creature
T : all people
NET : all humanity
[The wording of the HCSB may confuse folks who think animals are included.]

47:5 ( See also 48:37)
H : Baldness is coming to Gaza
T : Gaza will shave her head in mourning
[Isn't the TNIV plainer?]

48:9 (See 51:37)
H : her town will become a desolation,without inhabitant
T : her towns will become desolate,with no one to live in them
NET : become uninhabited
["Without inhabitant" is a bit too archaic.Understandable,but still archaic.]

49:2
H : dispossess their dispossessors
T : drive out those who drove them out
NET : take back its land from those who took their land from them
[I don't like H's wording.]

49:5
H : banished,each man headlong
T : driven away

49:18
H : no human being will even stay in it as a resident alien
T : no one will dwell in it
NET : No human being will settle there.

49:19
H : the perennially watered grazing land
T : rich pastureland
NET : the pastureland

49:20 ( See Verse 30 too.)
H : the plans the Lord has drawn up
T : the Lord has planned

49:25
H : city of praise (Close to the Hebrew.)
T : city of renown
NET : once famous city

50:7
H : their righteous grazing land
T : their verdant pasture
NET : their true pasture

 

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Now We're in Isaiah

H = HCSB
T = TNIV
N = NET Bible text
H = Hebrew

I'll refer to other translations at times.

1:5
H : The whole head is hurt
T : Your whole head is hurt
[ "The"? "Your" is better English.]

1:26
H : to their former state
T : as at the beginning
H : as in the beginning

3:11
H : it will go badly for them
T : Disaster is upon them!
[ Which is more descriptive?]

6:12
H : leaving great emptiness in the land
T : the land is utterly forsaken

6:13
H : leaves a stump when felled
T : leave stumps when they are cut down

7:3
H : Fuller's Field
T : Launderer's Field
[H is kind of antiquated here.]

8:12
H : an alliance
T : a conspiracy (also NASB)

8:22
H : gloom of affliction
T : fearful gloom

10:6
H : a people destined for my rage
T : a people who anger me
N : the people with whom I was angry

10:13
H : I subjugated the inhabitants
T : I subdued their kings
N : I brought down rulers

10:30
H : Anathoth is miserable.
T : Poor Anathoth!
H : Poor is Anathoth

 

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Continuing In Isaiah

11:4
H : discipline
T : rod
H : the scepter

13:11
H : humiliate the insolence of tyrants
T : humble the pride of the ruthless
N : bring down the arrogance of the tyrants

21:4
H : my last glimmer of hope
T : the twilight I longed for
N : the twilight I desired

22:21
H : put your authority into his hand
T : hand your authority over to him
N : transfer your authority to him

26:5
H : For He has humbled those who live in lofty places --an inaccessible city.He brings it down;He brings it down to the ground
T : He humbles those who dwell on high,he lays the lofty city low;he levels it to the ground
N : Indeed,the Lord knocks down those who live in a high place,he brings down an elevated town,he brings it down to the ground

30:32
H : appointed staff
T : punishing club
N : punishing cudgel

31:9
H : His rock will pass away because of fear
T : Their stronghold will fall because of terror
H : His rocky cliff,because of fear will pass away

32:7
H : and by charging the poor during a judgment
T : even when the plea of the needy is just
N : even when the needy are in the right

32:10
H : the vintage will fail
T : the grape harvest will fail (Same as Net Bible)
[ "Vintage" is antiquated.]

 

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In Isaiah

33:3
H : when you rise in your majesty
T : when you rise up
H : because of your exaltation

35:8
H : the Holy Way
T : the Way of Holiness (same as NET Bible and the Hebrew)

36:9
H : the weakest
T : the least ( same as NASBU and NRSV)

36:10
H : without the Lord's approval
T : without the Lord (same as NRSV and the Lit.)

38:5
H : Look, I am going to add
T : I will add (NRSV and NLTse.NJB has "I shall add")

40:5
H :will appear
T : will be revealed (NASBU,NJB,NLTse same.NRSV has "shall")

40:10
H : his gifts accompany Him
T : his recompense accompanies him
[NRSV,NASBU and NJB have :"his reward is with him".]

40:11
H : in the fold of His garment
T : close to his heart ( NET Bible,NLTse)
H : in his bosom

 

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40:23
H : makes the judges of the earth to be irrational
T : reduces the rulers of this world to nothing
N : makes the eath's leaders insignificant
[ I don't know the reason for the rendering "irrational" in the H.]

40:26
H : Look up and see
T : Lift up your eyes and look
NJB : Lift your eyes and look
NASBU : Lift up your eyes on high And see
H : Lift on high your eyes and see

41:5
H : they approach and arrive
T : they approach and come forward
N : they approach and come

41:6
H : Take courage!
T : Be strong! (NET Bible,NLTse)
NJB : Take heart!

42:6
H : called you for a righteous purpose
T : called you in righteousness (NASBU)
H : call you in righteousness

42:25
H : paid no attention
T : did not take it to heart
Lit. did not lay it to heart

45:1
H : unloose the loins of kings (NASBU almost the same)
T : strip kings of their armor
H : the belts of kings I will loosen
[Isn't "loins"a bit antiquated?]

47:5
H : mistress of kingdoms (NJB)
T : queen of kingdoms ( NET Bible,NLTse,NASU)

 

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Still In Isaiah

51:3
H : will comfort all her waste places (NASBU,NRSV
T : will look with compassion on all her ruins
NJB : has pity on all her ruins
N : will console all her ruins
NLTse : have pity on her ruins

51:12
H : a son of man who is given up like grass (sim. to Hebrew)
T : human beings,who are but grass

55:10
H : making it germinate and sprout
T : making it bud and flourish
N : making it produce and yield crops

57:1
H : the righteous one is swept away from the presence of evil
T : the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil
[Two different takes.]

59:3
H : injustice
T : wicked things
N : malacious words
NASBU,NRSV,NJB : wickedness

59:7
H : ruin and wretchedness are in their paths
T : acts of violence mark their ways
NASBU : devastation and destruction are in their highways
NRSV : desolation and destruction are in their highways
NLTse : Misery and destruction always follow them.

59:15
H : was offended
T : was displeased (NLTse,NJB)
Heb. : it is displeasing
NASBU : was displeasing

59:21
H : the mouth of your children
T : the mouths of your children (NRSV,NJB
NLTse : on the lips of your children
[The H rendering is awkward English.]

 

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60:2
H : and total darkness the peoples
T : and thick darkness is over the peoples
[The TNIV has better English here.]

60:13
H : my dwelling place
T : the place for my feet (Heb.)

60:17
H : I will make peace your governor and well-being your ruler
T : I will appoint peace as your guard and righteousness as your ruler
NRSV : overseer --- taskmaster
NLTse : leader --- ruler
["Well-being" and "righteousness" are quite different.]

61:1
H : heal the brokenhearted
T : bind up the brokenhearted (NASBU)
Heb. : to bind up the wounds of
N : to help the brokenhearted
NLTse : to comfort the brokenhearted
NJB : to soothe the broken-hearted

61:3
H : splendid clothes
T : a garment of praise (same as in Hebrew)

61:7
H : they will possess double
T : you will inherit a double portion
NASBU : they will possess a double portion
NJB : they will have a double portion
NLTse : You will possess a double portion

62:1
H : righteousness (NASBU,ESV)
T : vindication (NET Bible,NRSV)

62:5
H : virgin (NASBU,NJB)
T : young woman (NET Bible)
NLTse : bride

62:6
H : You,who remind the Lord (NASBU)
T : You who call on the Lord
NLTse : you who pray to the Lord

64:5
H : we will remain in your ways and be saved
T : How then can we be saved?
NLTse : how can people like us be saved?
NASBU : And shall we be saved?
[Question or declarative statement?]

64:9
H : Please look
T : look on us,we pray
NLTse : Look at us,we pray.

65:1
H : I was sought by those who did not ask
T : I revealed myself to those who did not ask
N : I made myself available to those who did not ask for me.

65:6 (see verse 7 also)
H : I will repay them fully
T : I will pay it back into their lap
Heb. : I will pay back into their lap

65:8
H : there's some good in it
T : there's still a blessing in it
Heb. : for a blessing is in it
NJB : for it contains a blessing

65:19
H : be glad in My people (NASBU)
T : take delight in my people
Heb. : be happy in my people
NLTse : delight in my people
NJB : rejoice in my people