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To Keep Schumer Happy

thatbrian

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We are talking about 3.6 million people. Compassion says they stay.

Compassion for whom, the black citizens they displace in jobs and housing? The white laborers who can't make a decent wage because of the supply of "cheap labor"?

The average age of the so called, "dreamers" is 24, which means that would be in direct competition with recent college grads who are CITIZENS with the reasonable expectation of their country enforcing its laws.

Misplaced compassion for the lawbreaker always leaves an innocent victim being harmed.

Enforcement of law and order for the good of it CITIZENS is what God gave the sword to government for.
 
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Rob_BW

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Personally, a bill which addresses both border security and "dreamers" needs to be proposed, as the two issues are inextricably linked. Solve them together, once and for all, and I'd be happy.

But then my fear is that a Democratic administration will come along and ignore border security in the hopes of procuring more votes, and start the whole problem over again.
 

thatbrian

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Personally, a bill which addresses both border security and "dreamers" needs to be proposed, as the two issues are inextricably linked. Solve them together, once and for all, and I'd be happy.

But then my fear is that a Democratic administration will come along and ignore border security in the hopes of procuring more votes, and start the whole problem over again.

If we ever build this wall, as soon as the Democrats could they would cut doorways into it and put out a welcome mat.
 

Rob_BW

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If we ever build this wall, as soon as the Democrats could they would cut doorways into it and put out a welcome mat.
The Party of Sanctuary Cities doesn’t give me hope that they would uphold any security measures emplaced by Republicans.
 

church mouse guy

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Compassion for whom, the black citizens they displace in jobs and housing? The white laborers who can't make a decent wage because of the supply of "cheap labor"?

The average age of the so called, "dreamers" is 24, which means that would be in direct competition with recent college grads who are CITIZENS with the reasonable expectation of their country enforcing its laws.

Misplaced compassion for the lawbreaker always leaves an innocent victim being harmed.

Enforcement of law and order for the good of it CITIZENS is what God gave the sword to government for.

I said that the left wants jihadists, cartel members, habitual criminals, and fifth columnists but you cut it. You also cut where I said that Teddy Kennedy wanted cheap labor in 1964 to undercut blacks. I also said that Democrats want illegals for votes. Both parties want cheap labor.

Beyond that you have never explained how you would deport 3.6 million people. A lot of them are probably in poverty-stricken California.

The key is to repeal the Kennedy act.
 

thatbrian

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I said that the left wants jihadists, cartel members, habitual criminals, and fifth columnists but you cut it. You also cut where I said that Teddy Kennedy wanted cheap labor in 1964 to undercut blacks. I also said that Democrats want illegals for votes. Both parties want cheap labor.

Beyond that you have never explained how you would deport 3.6 million people. A lot of them are probably in poverty-stricken California.

The key is to repeal the Kennedy act.

I obviously was responding to one of your comments that I disagreed with, not everything you said.

People are deported as individuals. You deport them as fast as you can manage. If you deport aggressively, some will leave on their own.
 

HankD

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IMO, Qualifying "Dreamers" should be offered a path to citizenship or a one-way ticket to the place birth as a one time historical event.

The path: Military Service, Community Service, Government Infrastructure work, etc...

The bulk of the fault of their "offense" lies with two entities 1) Their parents, 2) The US government in not catching/deporting the parents upon entry.

Obviously a codification of laws to prevent the DACA problem from repeating is also necessary.

A WALL.

A puppy for Schumer.


HankD
 

thatbrian

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IMO, Qualifying "Dreamers" should be offered a path to citizenship or a one-way ticket to the place birth as a one time historical event.

The path: Military Service, Community Service, Government Infrastructure work, etc...

The bulk of the fault of their "offense" lies with two entities 1) Their parents, 2) The US government in not catching/deporting the parents upon entry.

Obviously a codification of laws to prevent the DACA problem from repeating is also necessary.

A WALL.

A puppy for Schumer.


HankD

Hank for prez 2020
 

InTheLight

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If my father broke into the upper east side penthouse of snowbirds and my mother gave birth to me while there, would that give me the right to live in that apartment?

Wow, you build strawmen in political debates too!


Sent from my Pixel 2 XL
 

Revmitchell

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Sending the "Dreamers" back to "their" country, where they have never been except for a few months or a year after birth, whose language they don't speak, and customs they don't understand is the problem, not the solution.

No the problem is their parent brought them here illegally and now they are suffering the consequences, just as many other children do when their parents do illegal things. These kids are no exception in life. If we are going to do something special for these kids then we need to do something special for all kids who's parents have created difficult situations for their kids due to illegal activity.
 

HankD

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No the problem is their parent brought them here illegally and now they are suffering the consequences, just as many other children do when their parents do illegal things. These kids are no exception in life. If we are going to do something special for these kids then we need to do something special for all kids who's parents have created difficult situations for their kids due to illegal activity.
Sometimes a president pardons criminals, that doesn't mean he is therefore obligated to pardon all criminals.

This is a mass pardon if you will with law being enacted to keep it from happening again.

HankD
 

delizzle

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My drunk of a father spent my inheritance on booze, and I have spent my life preparing an inheritance for my loved ones. I understand the issue very well. From both sides.

God designed this. No man is an island. What a father does has an impact, for better or worse, on his children.

These children should not blame Trump or me for their plight. They should blame their fathers and mothers. The criminals who got them into this situation by their actions.
These dreamers need to blame their parents and a government who failed to enforce laws that prevented them from being dragged into our country.
 

HankD

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The DNC should wake up and smell the covfefe.

The usual tactics of smear campaign, fake, false and hyperbole news disseminated to the we the sheeple bleating away in our deplorable basket, clinging to our guns bible and crumbs DO NOT WORK ANYMORE.

Why? The internet - tweeting, Facebook and a myriad of posting blogs.

This mass media of the people, by the people and for the people has completely overturned the left progressive disgusting Marxist press.
Trump is known and heard around the globe 24/7 because of Trump's tenacity and a predisposition TO FIGHT when challenged.

Yet they keep on doing the same strategy and tactics of the old Communist Party over and over again.

On top of that they bring forward (please forgive me for this) ancient human beings who belong with their spouse in a 5th wheel enjoying their LONG OVERDUE retirement.

DNC - drop the Party of Death venue (Abortion, Euthanasia, Eugenics), elevate some NEW FRESH YOUNG BLOOD (Yellow Dog).

Get rid of your one plank platform of HATE TRUMP.

Get back to being The Party of the People.

There is still time.

HankD
 

Revmitchell

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Better to put the Dems in the garbage. Their history is slavery, Jim Crow, KKK, abortion, etc, etc, etc.

Liberals want to condemn the US because of poor activities in its history totally ignoring the good things while ignoring the same poor past of their own party. They are inconsistent and hypocrites.
 

Use of Time

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No the problem is their parent brought them here illegally and now they are suffering the consequences, just as many other children do when their parents do illegal things. These kids are no exception in life. If we are going to do something special for these kids then we need to do something special for all kids who's parents have created difficult situations for their kids due to illegal activity.

Because you are obsessed with the punishment of people rather than the welfare of people. Punishing people for the sins of their fathers shows absolutely no consideration for the welfare of a fellow human being. It’s truly bizarre for a Christian to be so vindictive. A pastor at that.
 
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