"To Think, To Reason, To Judge!" Biblical Apologetics in the Field of Christian Theology and Science.

[Alan Dale Gross]

"To Think, To Reason, To Judge!"​

Biblical Apologetics in the Field of Christian Theology and Science.​

"Biblical apologetics is the field of Christian Theology by which a legitimate and valid defense or justification is made for our beliefs, on a reasoned, biblical, and evidential basis. In it, the faithful Christian seeks to debunk the presuppositions and assumptions behind the faithless positions. In the science of learning, we effectively demonstrate and communicate from the scriptures and creation why humans should believe in God.

"This is a necessary aspect of faithful Christian living, since without a sound defense and hermeneutic, Apologetics is mere inference, supposition, and hypothesis."

Science:

• Archaeology and the Bible
• By Phillip Climer
• Is Humanistic Science a Religion: A Reformed Response
• By Jonathan Barlow
• Evolution is Religion, Not Science
• By Jonathan Barlow
• Richard Dawkins Debunked: A Dozen Logical Fallacies in The God Delusion
• By Norman J. Lund, Ph. D.

 

[cjab]

Biblical Apologetics in the Field of Christian Theology and Science.​

Science:

• Evolution is Religion, Not Science
• By Jonathan Barlow

I find the above article to be extremist, misrepresentative, unobjective in that it falsifies the meaning of words, and unworthy of a Christian.

"Evolution is both a fact and a theory. Evolution is widely observable in laboratory and natural populations as they change over time. The fact that we need annual flu vaccines is one example of observable evolution. At the same time, evolutionary theory explains more than observations, as the succession on the fossil record. Hence, evolution is also the scientific theory that embodies biology, including all organisms and their characteristics. In this paper, we emphasize why evolution is the most important theory in biology."

Source: Science and evolution Claudia AM Russo Thiago André.

 

[Ben1445]

I find the above article to be extremist, misrepresentative, unobjective in that it falsifies the meaning of words, and unworthy of a Christian.

Because it disagrees with your beliefs?

"Evolution is both a fact and a theory.

This is an oxymoron.

Evolution is widely observable in laboratory and natural populations as they change over time.

This is not evolution. We don’t call it evolution when our children have different color hair or are taller or shorter than we are. The only reason to call it that in animals is confirmation bias.

The fact that we need annual flu vaccines is one example of observable evolution.

“The fact that we need” is an opinionated statement. I know many people who have lived their entire life without flu vaccines and are living their best life.
The fact that you must continue to get them is because of the ineffectiveness of the vaccines and because there are variants of the virus that the vaccine is directed against. Sometimes the annual vaccine is for the wrong dominant variant. The scientist guessed wrong. But these variants are not proof of evolution. You assume that the flu is limited in variants and that any changes must be to the composition of the virus.
The reality is that your body is not interested in the vaccine either and treated the vaccine like a virus. It got rid of it as soon as it could. As with anything, if you don’t use it you lose it. If my “immunity” is to the black Labrador version, I will much more easily be able to resist a yellow lab than a St. Bernard.
But they are all dogs just like they are all flu viruses.
Another big problem with viruses is misdiagnosis. You walk into the doctors office he tells you that you have the flu. He didn’t identify the virus. He saw symptoms that are flu-like symptoms but you could easily have another virus that gives you the same symptoms. Since the majority of treatments are for symptoms and not causes, the treatment works. That doesn’t mean you have a flu.
In short, you have a faulty premise.

At the same time, evolutionary theory explains more than observations, as the succession on the fossil record.

Through multiple layers of evolutionary strata? I didn’t know trees could keep growing when their roots were petrified. Or is it that the entire tree petrified because of the roots?
A better explanation is that little things with little legs that move slowly are not able to advance themselves from danger of being buried. So the little weaker animals that evolution thinks we come from are just more susceptible to being trapped by sediment in a world wide flood. This also explains trees passing through multiple layers of strata supposedly laid down by millions of years.

Hence,

Every thought prior is s faulty logic. Hence it follows that the conclusions following will also be faulty.

evolution is also the scientific theory that embodies biology, including all organisms and their characteristics. In this paper, we emphasize why evolution is the most important theory in biology."

Source: Science and evolution Claudia AM Russo Thiago André.

 

[cjab]

I have learnt in my time that petty quibbling over every word posted, that only seeks to distract the reader's train of thought into endless irrelevance, and down blind alleyways, is never worth replying to.

 

[Ben1445]

I have learnt in my time that petty quibbling over every word posted, that only seeks to distract the reader's train of thought into endless irrelevance, and down blind alleyways, is never worth replying to.

It was not petty quibbling. It was a refutation of what was presented as science.
It didn’t hold up so you call me petty!
That is pettiness at its finest.

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

Ben1445, you are as sharp a guy as I've ever encountered.​

Your replies enter into the realm of the imagination of evolutionists and nail them to the wall.
YOU WIPED UP THE FLOOR WITH THIS FELLOW. WOW, Thank you for taking the time to Clean his Clock and knock him into next week. More than SUPURB replies. Since we are dabbling into the realm of imagining things, imagine in your head one big long "WHEEWWWW"* that I am whistling!!!!!

*a whistling sound uttered as an exclamation used interjectionally chiefly to express amazement." COOOL.

Evolution is both a fact

This is an oxymoron.

There is NO PROBLEM WITH 'life comes from death,' is there?​

​

Well, except that IT ROBS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF HIS GLORY HE OBTAIN BY LIVING A PERFECT LIFE ON EARTH AND THEN BEING CRUCIFIED AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED ON THE THIRD DAY....​

​

JESUS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, AND AN AMEBA FROM A DEAD ROCK (THAT NO EVELUTIONIST CAN EXPLAIN HOW THAT ROCK GOT THERE(???)​

LIFE DOES NOT COME FROM DEATH, APART FROM JESUS' RESURRECTION FROM BEING ABSOLUTELY DEAD TO PRODUCE ETERNAL LIFE.

"The utterly rash GUESSWORK from the Spiritually Challenged fake, phony, and false tomfoolery they think that God told them to call themselves "EVOLUTIONISTS....(????????????)

No, God sees "evolutionists" as blasphemous, fraudulent QUACKS.

JESUS CHRIST ACCOMPLISHED THE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLE WHEN THE TRIUNE GODHEAD RAISED OUR SAVIOR AND BROTHER JESUS CHRIST FROM THE DEAD.

AND THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY THE ONE AND ONLY TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD FROM ITS FIAT CREATION WHEN THE VITAL LIFE OF ANYTHING ON EARTH WAS RAISED AND CAME FROM THE DEAD.

evolutionary theory explains more than observations

Shine on you crazy diamond.

In this paper, we emphasize why evolution is the most important theory in biology."

For the profitable element Envolved (excuse me there, while I just had to evolve by just changing the spelling of that word; man, that's a good one), and by that I mean the 'scientists' livelihood. You know, THEIR PAYCHECK.

Heck, I was just evolving our mother tongue. Just like that. In my head. WHERE IS MY PAYCHECK??

SHOW ME THE MONEY (AND I'LL TELL YOU SOME BULLPOOP YOU WANT TO HEAR.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts." II Timothy 4:3.

Well, we are there. We're obviously in the Last Time. Jesus is coming very soon, folks.

And the lord god of the universe isn't going to want to hear any of this no, ggooddy, ggoodd garlic balony.

In fact, Jesus will shut their mouth as they bow to Jesus' Eternal Lordship.

It'll be too bad that cjab hasn't evolved to discern common sense*, when He will be looking straight into the eyes of the Author of God's Holy Bible.

Jesus Knows His Bible, man. Get things right for once and for all.

*That link will lead to dozens of verses that must be absorbed into the heart of a man by the Omniscient Power of the Eternal Holy Ghost, to gain any respect from men of God. you?

Because, just like these so-called 'scientists' who have left their profession to enter the evil world of Dark Occult musings that are counter to God Almighty, since you and they all know that they and you are just guessing.

I've genuinely used real scientific observation (which is their only stupid job) scientifically, and I have overestimated the content of your knowledge.

That won't happen again.

You reached for the secret too soon. You cried to the moon.

I command you, by the Authority of the Eternal Word of God, to REPENT.

 

[cjab]

There is NO PROBLEM WITH 'life comes from death,' is there?

​

Well, except that IT ROBS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF HIS GLORY HE OBTAIN BY LIVING A PERFECT LIFE ON EARTH AND THEN BEING CRUCIFIED AND TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED ON THE THIRD DAY....​

​

JESUS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, AND AN AMEBA FROM A DEAD ROCK (THAT NO EVELUTIONIST CAN EXPLAIN HOW THAT ROCK GOT THERE(???)​

LIFE DOES NOT COME FROM DEATH, APART FROM JESUS' RESURRECTION FROM BEING ABSOLUTELY DEAD TO PRODUCE ETERNAL LIFE.

"The utterly rash GUESSWORK from the Spiritually Challenged fake, phony, and false tomfoolery they think that God told them to call themselves "EVOLUTIONISTS....(????????????)

No, God sees "evolutionists" as blasphemous, fraudulent QUACKS.

JESUS CHRIST ACCOMPLISHED THE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLE WHEN THE TRIUNE GODHEAD RAISED OUR SAVIOR AND BROTHER JESUS CHRIST FROM THE DEAD.

AND THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY THE ONE AND ONLY TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD FROM ITS FIAT CREATION WHEN THE VITAL LIFE OF ANYTHING ON EARTH WAS RAISED AND CAME FROM THE DEAD.

Shine on you crazy diamond.

For the profitable element Envolved (excuse me there, while I just had to evolve by just changing the spelling of that word; man, that's a good one), and by that I mean the 'scientists' livelihood. You know, THEIR PAYCHECK.

Heck, I was just evolving our mother tongue. Just like that. In my head. WHERE IS MY PAYCHECK??

SHOW ME THE MONEY (AND I'LL TELL YOU SOME BULLPOOP YOU WANT TO HEAR.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears, they shall heap to themselves teachers in accordance with their own lusts." II Timothy 4:3.

Well, we are there. We're obviously in the Last Time. Jesus is coming very soon, folks.

And the lord god of the universe isn't going to want to hear any of this no, ggooddy, ggoodd garlic balony.

In fact, Jesus will shut their mouth as they bow to Jesus' Eternal Lordship.

It'll be too bad that cjab hasn't evolved to discern common sense*, when He will be looking straight into the eyes of the Author of God's Holy Bible.

Jesus Knows His Bible, man. Get things right for once and for all.

*That link will lead to dozens of verses that must be absorbed into the heart of a man by the Omniscient Power of the Eternal Holy Ghost, to gain any respect from men of God. you?

Because, just like these so-called 'scientists' who have left their profession to enter the evil world of Dark Occult musings that are counter to God Almighty, since you and they all know that they and you are just guessing.

I've genuinely used real scientific observation (which is their only stupid job) scientifically, and I have overestimated the content of your knowledge.

That won't happen again.

You reached for the secret too soon. You cried to the moon.

I command you, by the Authority of the Eternal Word of God, to REPENT.

Evolution doesn't posit that "life comes from death" as the theory of evolution doesn't posit where life originates, in the very fact of it being limited to being a science. It is related to observable and investigatable biological phenomena. Even if there are some atheist scientists who seek to extrapolate evolution beyond its allowable remit, it doesn't change anything.

That is why to call evolution a religion, or treat it as such, is misrepresentation, and falsification of the meaning of words.

Just as the theory of the big bang doesn't posit why the "big bang" occurred. It isn't a religion, but a working scientific hypothesis.

You are devoted to making evolution a "religion," in order to defame it, and anyone who sees it as credible science.

So I don't see your cult as having anything to do with Christianity. To me, it is just CULT. Bandying about the words of Christ in the context of talking about evolution is fake argumentation, as Christ never mentions science.

Evolution has nothing to do with religion, or the bible, or Christ, or salvation. Science mostly lies outside the biblical remit.

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

thats what I thought, You have nothing..

I don't care if you don't read or believe what I have written. However, as you can see, it's there for the taking

"life comes from death"

If they don't ever put Creation on the table for consideration, there is a reason. Obliviousness.

evolution doesn't posit where life originates

They Know.

in the very fact of it being limited to being a science.

What about the All-Science God of the universe?
God Is All-Powerful, everywhere at once, and has Created every morsel of matter as the Omniscient ONE AND ONLY, TRUE AND LIVING GOD OF THE BIBLE, and every scientist there is AND YOU AND YOUR PURLY IMAGINED HOAXES.

It is related to observable and investigatable biological phenomena.

Show me the money.

Even if there are some atheist scientists who seek to extrapolate evolution beyond its allowable remit, it doesn't change anything.

The remit is to show anything on Earth that exhibits change for the better, anywhere, first.

to call evolution a religion

Just as the theory of the big bang doesn't posit why the "big bang" occurred. It isn't a religion, but a working scientific hypothesis.

You are devoted to making evolution a "religion," in order to defame it, and anyone who sees it as credible science.

So I don't see your cult as having anything to do with Christianity.

Bandying about the words of Christ in the context of talking about evolution is fake argumentation, as Christ never mentions science.

"All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made." John 3:1.
We give credit where credit is due. And Jesus Christ Created everything that there is.

IT'S A DEAD ISSUE AND THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS OBSERVABLE PROOF "God works in mysterious ways" and in this case, the Triune Godhead they decided to make the Heavens and the earth and you. Be ready to face Him eye to Eye.

Evolution has nothing to do with religion, or the bible, or Christ, or salvation.

Or science. SCIENCE INVOLVES OBSERVABLE PHENOMENA. HOLDING ON TO AN UNPROVABLE PHILOSOPHY THAT IS UNPROVABLE IN ITS ENTIRETY IS NOT SCIENTIFIC.

THESE SCIENTISTS PURPOSELY AVOID ANYTHING AT ALL THAT INVOLVES THE BIBLE.

SHOW ME WHERE THEY HAVE ALWAYS CONSIDERED GOD AS THE CREATOR FOR ONE OF THEIR VARIOUS "THEORIES

Science mostly lies

I can't tell how I like this wording, so I could lift it out of context and make it say what I actually thought you meant.