To Those Casting a McCain Vote

[Salty]

How many of our Presidents, let alone the great ones,... We need a great leader, not necessarily an ex-prisoner of war. We also must change the failed Republican policies of the last 8 years. The events of the last 6 months clearly indicate that we need a change.

1. I agree being a POW does not necessarily mean you would make a better President. However, the time he spent and the conditions he endured certainly does show he has character.

2. Lets assume that the Republican polices have failed*. How much of the blame can be put on the Democrat majority in both houses of Congress?

* are you saying EVERY Republican policy has failed, most, some, just a few or what?

For the record, what would you say are the three most successful policies of the Bush administration

Sgt Salty

 

[Alcott]

Are you saying "Vote first then ask questions"

No, those were not my words.

 

[saturneptune]

I think the two most successful policies of the Bush administration are:
Supreme Court Nominees
Protection from terror within our borders

 

[LadyEagle]

Yep, me, too. There are some Bush policies that I absolutely abhor, but I notice the Democrats in power didn't rise to the occasion, either. So a pox on both houses in some (most) cases.

 

[Salty]

I vote for The Rifleman as the lesser of evils... which is always the case in voting.

Are you saying "Vote first then ask questions":laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Dragoon68]

Are you casting a vote for McCain because you feel he is the man to lead this country and he reflects most of your values and beliefs?

or

Are you casting a vote for McCain because he is the lesser of two evils? If you are in this catagory, how much do you think you are compromising your beliefs to cast the vote?

I will cast my vote based on what I think would be best for the country based on my discernment of the information I have received. I will choose from those that are running. I will consider their chance of winning as one factor. I will vote for one and I will vote against the others.

I will compromise nothing about what I believe. I will compromise nothing about what I might consider to be the ideal choice for our country. I will not adopt all the beliefs and practices of another just by voting for them or not.

I will also keep in mind that I am not voting to elect an eternal and absolute king and that there are many other persons involved in the governance of our nation and there are many other ways to influence what happens and what doesn't.

Most importantly, I will try to remember that God will still be in control and that praying is far more effective than voting even as important it is.

 

[righteousdude2]

McCain Because of Palin

While I believe McCain is a more experienced person [more than BHO], I am picking him for her. She is what this country needs for the future, and only time will show if I'm right or wrong.raying:

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

How many of our Presidents, let alone the great ones, have been prisoners of war. I'm really not certain that makes any difference at all. For instance, Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Truman, JFK. None of those were prisoners of war. We need a great leader, not necessarily an ex-prisoner of war. We also must change the failed Republican policies of the last 8 years. The events of the last 6 months clearly indicate that we need a change.

As far as I know we have never had a president who was a prisoner of war. Historically there have not been a lot of POWs and most of them looked upon their imprisonment as a dishonor and a mark of defeat.

What makes me think John McCain would be a great president is not the fact that he was a prisoner of war but the Character he showed while he was a prisoner of war. Refusing special treatment and sticking to the code of honor even when it hurt him personally and physically. He put the needs of his fellow sailors and soldiers and the good of the country above his own personal interests. Read his book, its awesome.

In truth McCain's life prior to Vietnam was that of a hot shot flyboy. He drank a lot and partied hard. He was out for a good time and not much more. In Faith of My Fathers he describes how his life came into focus as a prisoner. How he never felt a love for his country until he had personally lost it. This is a man who knows what it is to be part of something larger than himself. He has shown that he is willing to put the good of the nation above his own personal interests, something that quite frankly no other politician running today has shown.

I think John McCain is a great leader. Not because he was a POW, but the story of his actions as a POW illustrate the fact that he is and will be a great leader.

Yes I agree we need to change the liberal policies George Bush and the congress have advanced for the last 8 years. But we need to move to more conservative policies not more liberal ones! That applies to immigration, spending, taxes, subsidized business failures, healthcare, and the micromanagement of military operations. We need a conservative president, something we have not had since 1988.

 

[Palatka51]

We need a bulldog in the Executive office and McCain has the temperament to fit that calling. A person that will stand against what is going on now. We do not need a person that will be molded by Palosi and Reed. The last thing this nation needs is a filibuster proof Congress led by the most liberal leadership this nation has ever seen.

 

[Alcott]

Are you saying "Vote first then ask questions"

No, those were not my words.

 

[saturneptune]

Yep, me, too. There are some Bush policies that I absolutely abhor, but I notice the Democrats in power didn't rise to the occasion, either. So a pox on both houses in some (most) cases.

Excellent post :thumbs:

 

[LeBuick]

We need a bulldog in the Executive office and McCain has the temperament to fit that calling. A person that will stand against what is going on now. We do not need a person that will be molded by Palosi and Reed. The last thing this nation needs is a filibuster proof Congress led by the most liberal leadership this nation has ever seen.

We need solid, calculating, thoughtful leadership and not someone who does the first thing that comes to mind. I take careful thought over first with a plan any day. His reaction to the financial crises shown he can be a bit indecisive and that he acts more from emotion instead of taking time to consider all options so he can come t a solution that is best for all.

He tried to "show" us he was a good leader instead of just being a good leader and letting us see for ourselves.

I'm not much for a show.

 

[LeBuick]

Yes I agree we need to change the liberal policies George Bush and the congress have advanced for the last 8 years. But we need to move to more conservative policies not more liberal ones! That applies to immigration, spending, taxes, subsidized business failures, healthcare, and the micromanagement of military operations. We need a conservative president, something we have not had since 1988.

You must be kidding, with all the tax cuts Bush gave big business you call him liberal?

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

You must be kidding, with all the tax cuts Bush gave big business you call him liberal?

Uh, yea, I do.

Bush is very liberal in lots of ways. First and foremost of course is the fact that he has done nothing to reign in the runaway spending of the congress. His stand on immigration, healthcare, and this bail outs of financial and other business sectors all scream liberal.

But back to your statement? What tax cuts? Taxes are taxes and we end up paying them if they come out before or after our check. Payroll taxes my company pays still result in less money for me. Cutting taxes on business means more money for every working American.

How about some real numbers?

From the National Center for Policy Analysis at http://www.ncpa.org/prs/rel/2008/20080121.html

the Bush tax cuts made the tax code more progressive, no matter how progressivity is measured.

"It is politically popular to say that tax cuts benefit the wealthy," said Michael D. Stroup, a Stephen F. Austin University economist who authored the NCPA report. "The accusation does not match the reality."

Or check the Heritage Foundation at http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/bg2001.cfm

The tax cuts have not substantially reduced tax revenues, which were in fact not far from the 2000 pre–tax cut baseline and over the 2003 pre–tax cut baseline in 2006;
The increased child tax credit, 10 percent tax bracket, and fix of the alternative minimum tax (AMT) reduced tax revenues much more than most of the "tax cuts for the rich";
Economic growth rates have more than doubled since the 2003 tax cuts; and
The tax cuts shifted even more of the income tax burden toward the rich.

And don't even start with the Bush "rebate." Giving tax money to people who never paid it to start with is not a tax cut I don't care if Bush or Obama does it, it still is welfare.

In the end it comes back to the two current candidates view on taxation. Obama still views taxes as a way to "spread around the wealth" while McCain views taxes as necessary to fund government programs.

We need a president that does not intend to use the tax code to penalize success and subsidize failure!

 

[bobbyd]

I was leaning toward voting for Chuck Baldwin until Sarah Palin was chosen and she sealed the deal for me on voting for McCain. Although he was the lesser of two evils, i don't think it was worth my compromise to vote for him if he would have chosen a running mate left of him.

 

[saturneptune]

I was leaning toward voting for Chuck Baldwin until Sarah Palin was chosen and she sealed the deal for me on voting for McCain. Although he was the lesser of two evils, i don't think it was worth my compromise to vote for him if he would have chosen a running mate left of him.

It would be nice in the next few elections to be able to vote for someone in the two major parties and not the lesser of two evils.