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To Us the Pauline Epistles; To the Jews the Rest of the Books

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Guido

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According to some theologians, none of the books in the Bible are written to us except the Pauline epistles, nor should we get our doctrine from any of the books in the Bible but the Pauline epistles. So all the promises, all the warnings, and all the doctrines, in all books of the Bible but the Pauline epistles, are written for the Jews in other time periods. But for us who live in the age of grace are written the Pauline epistles. These only do we have to obey.

What is your opinion of this? Do this completely contradict Baptist theology?
 
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Van

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Guido said:
According to some theologians, none of the books in the Bible are written to us except the Pauline epistles, nor should we get our doctrine from any of the books in the Bible but the Pauline epistles. So all the promises, all the warnings, and all the doctrines, in all books of the Bible but the Pauline epistles, are written for the Jews in other time periods. But for us who live in the age of grace are written the Pauline epistles. These only do we have to obey.

What is your opinion of this? Do this completely contradict Baptist theology?
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Hogwash
Luke 2:32
Acts of the Apostles 2:10-11
Matthew 10:18
1 Peter 2:12
1 John 2:2
 
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John's gospel account uses Roman hours rather than the Jewish hours of the day as used in Matthew, Mark or Luke.
 
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kathleenmariekg

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I find it really interesting to see where a certain teacher/theologian divides the Bible into "history" and "doctrine", and whether it is implied or emphatically stated, and if they will declare their general choice by declaring a beloved or traditional promise or instruction as not for Christians.
 
kathleenmariekg

kathleenmariekg

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Dake is the only dispensationalist that I know of that starts the Dispensation of Grace at Matthew 3 instead of Acts 3. Starting at Acts 3 means elevating the words of Paul above the importance of the words of Jesus. That makes me uncomfortable. Starting at Matthew 3 means OT promises don't always apply to Christians. That makes me sad, coming from a background of reformed psalm singing. I know that I don't know.
 
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Van

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kathleenmariekg said:
Dake is the only dispensationalist that I know of that starts the Dispensation of Grace at Matthew 3 instead of Acts 3. Starting at Acts 3 means elevating the words of Paul above the importance of the words of Jesus. That makes me uncomfortable. Starting at Matthew 3 means OT promises don't always apply to Christians. That makes me sad, coming from a background of reformed psalm singing. I know that I don't know.
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I think Galatians 3 makes it clear that born anew believers are children of the promise...
 
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MB said:
Those verses are written to the Jews about the Gentiles.Not to the Gentiles.
MB
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Those verses were not written to Jews only but also to Christians, believers. For example 1 John 2:2 where Jesus is the means of salvation for the whole of humanity. Who were the "proselytes, ?" And who does "to lighten the Gentiles" address?

Act 18:4 And Paul was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath and trying to persuade Jews and Greeks

Act 20:21 solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ
 
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kathleenmariekg

kathleenmariekg

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If it were all so clear, then there would not be so much disagreement. I don't think it is strange to give up on thinking it is all so clear. A young child usually doesn't see its parents behavior as clear. The young children who think they know the most usually have the most ridiculous ideas.

Daddy is powerful and Daddy is there, but the more I listen to the bigger and smarter kids, the less I trust anything they have to say about Daddy.
 
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MB

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The whole Bible was written for all man though it was addressed to the Jews . Parts of it includes the Gentiles. Yet it is all important for Salvation for anyone.
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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kathleenmariekg said:
If it were all so clear, then there would not be so much disagreement. I don't think it is strange to give up on thinking it is all so clear. A young child usually doesn't see its parents behavior as clear. The young children who think they know the most usually have the most ridiculous ideas.

Daddy is powerful and Daddy is there, but the more I listen to the bigger and smarter kids, the less I trust anything they have to say about Daddy.
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Yes, it is going too far to say “it is all so clear.” But the vast majority of it, when taken in context, becomes quite clear. Context is all important.

Beware those ignoring context, and those considering difficult passages primary. Daddy will take care of his own.
 
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