Today is the 6th Day...

[BenWest]

@BenWest any day you have me and @Revmitchell fighting on the same side you know there must be a problem with your theology.

Aside: Despite my early clashings with @Revmitchell we have talked a lot privately and I actually like him a lot though we disagree on much.

I don't mind disagreement. It allows me to show others what Genesis actually says instead of what some ancient Hebrew theologian thought it said, 3k years ago. I shake up people everywhere I go since I support what I write with Scripture which does not say what some think it says. Thanks for allowing me to do so. God Bless you

 

[Reformed1689]

I don't mind disagreement. It allows me to show others what Genesis actually says instead of what some ancient Hebrew theologian thought it said, 3k years ago. I shake up people everywhere I go since I support what I write with Scripture which does not say what some think it says. Thanks for allowing me to do so. God Bless you

You haven't supported it with Scripture at all. You just give Scripture and then give your crazy unfounded, unbiblical take on it.

 

[Revmitchell]

False. Are you Catholic? With your thinking please explain the following verse:

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Who is his and their?

Am I Catholic? I know one thing for sure you aint Baptist.

 

[BenWest]

It in no way says that. Genesis 2 is not talking about the third day. It's not a full recount of creation week. It's talking specifically about the creation of man.

Not so, since it begins by speaking of the future 7th Day when God's work has been finished/brought to perfection. Genesis 2:1-3 Then it takes us back to the events of the 3rd Day to add the detail that Adam was made physically from the dust of the ground. Genesis 2 doesn't speak of the present 6th Day until Genesis 2:18 when Jesus makes the Temporary beasts of the Earth, cattle, birds and every creeping thing from the dust of the ground. At verse 22, we are told HOW Jesus made Eve from Adam's rib. Genesis 2 speaks of Days 3, 6 and 7.

Yes God rested. Exodus 20 confirms that the seventh day already happened. It has nothing to do with a spiritual creation. Where are you getting that nonsense? Not from Scripture.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The word "rested" in English does not match the Hebrew tense, since it is in the Hebrew imperfect tense which can be past, present or future. God's rest from ALL of His work of Creation doesn't happen until AFTER Jesus returns to rule and reign for a thousand years after Armageddon. IF Jesus is God and His is, then His work is not finished until He returns to change Lions and Bears into vegetarians as Genesis 1:30 says and Isaiah 11:7 confirms. Amen?

 

[Reformed1689]

Not so, since it begins by speaking of the future 7th Day when God's work has been finished/brought to perfection. Genesis 2:1-3 Then it takes us back to the events of the 3rd Day to add the detail that Adam was made physically from the dust of the ground. Genesis 2 doesn't speak of the present 6th Day until Genesis 2:18 when Jesus makes the Temporary beasts of the Earth, cattle, birds and every creeping thing from the dust of the ground. At verse 22, we are told HOW Jesus made Eve from Adam's rib. Genesis 2 speaks of Days 3, 6 and 7.



Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The word "rested" in English does not match the Hebrew tense, since it is in the Hebrew imperfect tense which can be past, present or future. God's rest from ALL of His work of Creation doesn't happen until AFTER Jesus returns to rule and reign for a thousand years after Armageddon. IF Jesus is God and His is, then His work is not finished until He returns to change Lions and Bears into vegetarians as Genesis 1:30 says and Isaiah 11:7 confirms. Amen?

Ok it's official, you are a lunatic.

 

[BenWest]

SIMPLE beast, and cattle, and those that creepeth on the earth.

Who made them from the dust? Are they His or Their kinds?

 

[Reformed1689]

Who made them from the dust? Are they His or Their kinds?

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[BenWest]

You haven't supported it with Scripture at all. You just give Scripture and then give your crazy unfounded, unbiblical take on it.

Be more specific with your ad-hominems. It's the refuge of those who cannot support their views Scripturally.

 

[Reformed1689]

Be more specific with your ad-hominems. It's the refuge of those who cannot support their views Scripturally.

I think you need to look up the definition of ad hominem first of all. Second, I've supported my position with Scripture. You have not done so. You introduce crazy things like Adam had two separate creations in the creation week even though that is nowhere in Scripture.

 

[BenWest]

What in the world are you talking about?

My words are in black to help you see.

Gen 1:25 And God (The Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind, and cattle after Their (Trinity) kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good.

Jesus made temporary kinds which are subject to death and The Trinity makes eternal kinds which are destined for Heaven. Amen?

 

[Revmitchell]

My words are in black to help you see.

Gen 1:25 And God (The Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind, and cattle after Their (Trinity) kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good.

Jesus made temporary kinds which are subject to death and The Trinity makes eternal kinds which are destined for Heaven. Amen?

Heresy

 

[Reformed1689]

My words are in black to help you see.

Gen 1:25 And God (The Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His (Jesus) kind, and cattle after Their (Trinity) kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His (Jesus) kind: and God saw that it was good.

Jesus made temporary kinds which are subject to death and The Trinity makes eternal kinds which are destined for Heaven. Amen?

Ok WHERE do you get that the his is Jesus, their is Trinity, etc?

 

[Revmitchell]

Ok WHERE do you get that the his is Jesus, their is Trinity, etc?

The little green men from outer space

 

[BenWest]

Heresy

Okay. Explain this one if you can.

Gen 1:11 ¶ And God (The Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after His (Jesus) kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

You cannot because your religion doesn't know who His is. It's not their fault since they have been listening to the traditional religious story which does NOT agree with Scripture and leaves it's readers in the same ignorant position as men who lived thousands of years before the last days.

 

[Revmitchell]

Okay. Explain this one if you can.

Gen 1:11 ¶ And God (The Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after His (Jesus) kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

You cannot because your religion doesn't know who His is. It's not their fault since they have been listening to the traditional religious story which does NOT agree with Scripture and leaves it's readers in the same ignorant position as men who lived thousands of years before the last days.

Is that all you got?

 

[Reformed1689]

Okay. Explain this one if you can.

Gen 1:11 ¶ And God (The Trinity) said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after His (Jesus) kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

You cannot because your religion doesn't know who His is. It's not their fault since they have been listening to the traditional religious story which does NOT agree with Scripture and leaves it's readers in the same ignorant position as men who lived thousands of years before the last days.

Where do you get that it is Jesus? Not from Scripture. Not from grammar. Not from plain reading.

 

[BenWest]

Ok WHERE do you get that the his is Jesus, their is Trinity, etc?

Lord God/Jesus made mankind and the common ancestors with His own Hands. They are His kinds. In the OT, His name is YHWH, a singular name in Hebrew. God (Elohim-The Trinity) is a PLURAL name for the invisible Spirit of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit we call God. Unless you know the difference between the invisible Spirit of God and the physical incarnation of God (YHWH/Jesus) you will NEVER understand Genesis. Amen?

 

[Reformed1689]

Lord God/Jesus made mankind and the common ancestors with His own Hands. They are His kinds. In the OT, His name is YHWH, a singular name in Hebrew. God (Elohim-The Trinity) is a PLURAL name for the invisible Spirit of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit we call God. Unless you know the difference between the invisible Spirit of God and the physical incarnation of God (YHWH/Jesus) you will NEVER understand Genesis. Amen?

NO. First, what do you mean by common ancestor? You an evolutionist now too? If so this conversation is done.

 

[BenWest]

Is that all you got?

No, it seems there are some here who have a misplaced view of what Genesis actually teaches. So far, all you have done is disagree and name call. Do you have anything to contribute?

 

[Reformed1689]

@BenWest what are your credentials?