Trail Life or Boy Scouts

[Zaac]

You've missed my point. NO! We do not do both! The comparison of spouses remaining behind in war is inapplicable to the discussion. The church that stays within itself and preaches to the choir is slowing dying, doing nothing to spread the gospel, do the good works of the church, or grow in likeness to Christ, as the bride is commanded.

:applause: Finally we are in agreement. :laugh:

 

[Salty]

You've missed my point. NO! We do not do both! The comparison of spouses remaining behind in war is inapplicable to the discussion. The church that stays within itself and preaches to the choir is slowing dying, doing nothing to spread the gospel, do the good works of the church, or grow in likeness to Christ, as the bride is commanded.

Actually, I think Don has a good point. In fact Don, allow me to expand on that a bit.

Yes, Sapper left his wife at home, the day he entered the Army - (okay so maybe she attend his swearing in) - but did Uncle Sam send Sapper directly to a combat zone - NO! He first went to Basic Combat Training - where he learned the many skills required of a GI. He then went to AIT (Advance Individual Training) to learn the specific job he was committed to doing (in his case - Combat Engineer) if he did not succede in certian areas, he would have had to recycle until he was ready. After graduation - he then was issued the equptment needed to go into a combat zone.

Anotherwords - do not send a person into battle until he has the proper equipment and not until they are mature enough for the meat of the Word. A big problem is that our churches are not often sucessful in disciplship. Could be the church is doing a poor job - or the individual is not properly dedicated to fullfill the mission.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Actually, I think Don has a good point. In fact Don, allow me to expant on that a bit.

Yes, Sapper left his wife at home, the day he entered the Army - (okay so maybe she attend his swearing in) - but did Uncle Sam send Sapper directly to a combat zone - NO! He first went to Basic Combat Training - where he learned the many skills required of a GI. He then went to AIT (Advacnc Individual Training) to learn the specific job he was committed to doing (in his case - Combat Engineer) if he did not succede in certian areas, he would have had to recycle until he was ready. After graduation - he then was issued the equptment needed to go into a combat zone.

Anotherwords - lets not send a boy to do a mans job. Some need to stay in church until they are mature enough for the meat of the Word.
A big problme is that our churches are not often sucessful in disciplship. Could be the church is doing a poor job - or the individual is not properly dedicated to fullfill the mission.

Of course they need to be equipped.

The churches I'm talking about aren't even trying, much less equipping.

 

[Sapper Woody]

Actually, I think Don has a good point. In fact Don, allow me to expand on that a bit.

Yes, Sapper left his wife at home, the day he entered the Army - (okay so maybe she attend his swearing in) - but did Uncle Sam send Sapper directly to a combat zone - NO! He first went to Basic Combat Training - where he learned the many skills required of a GI. He then went to AIT (Advance Individual Training) to learn the specific job he was committed to doing (in his case - Combat Engineer) if he did not succede in certian areas, he would have had to recycle until he was ready. After graduation - he then was issued the equptment needed to go into a combat zone.

Anotherwords - do not send a person into battle until he has the proper equipment and not until they are mature enough for the meat of the Word. A big problem is that our churches are not often sucessful in disciplship. Could be the church is doing a poor job - or the individual is not properly dedicated to fullfill the mission.

Sappers! Hooah!

Seriously though, well said. We are to go into the world, but not be of the world. "Insulated, but not isolated." Until someone is mature enough to stand on their faith, we need them to be as sheltered as possible. "Babes in Christ". We don't expect a toddler to be a bread winner.

Discipleship is the key here, and as you said, seems to be a huge failing in today's churches.

 

[Salty]

Of course they need to be equipped.

The churches I'm talking about aren't even trying, much less equipping.

and we need to be careful about lumping everyone together.

Can you think of what some would think if I said that Sapper and his platoon
would be nothing without us Quartermaster types

Salty

Sorry Sapper - if the truth hurts! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Don]

Of course they need to be equipped.

The churches I'm talking about aren't even trying, much less equipping.

Salty, thanks for the expansion and better clarification!

TNID - AGREED. Where you're differentiating, however, is the part I bolded and underlined. You see, you recognize that churches are guilty of this; however, Zaac keeps talking about "the church."

I think (hope?) we all understand the difference.