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Such mending and reconciliation is found only when we return to Cross which was done once for ALL, (not only for your time of salvation but also for your life thru !)Originally posted by Matt Black:
Reconciliation is the mending of damage in a pre-existing relationship. To take a marital analogy, I am married to my wife (analogous to being born again and forgiven). However from time to time I regrettably offend her and hurt her feelings. That doesn't stop us being married but it does necessitate a reconciliation and mending of fences between us
I am waiting for his own answer.Originally posted by Chemnitz:
His answer is Yes and He told me to tell you stop doubting His ability to do as He promises.
That is the typical confession by the people who have never experienced the True Salvation ONCE FOR ALL !Originally posted by Chemnitz:
I have no worries, I receive all of His forgiveness everytime, not in little pieces.
but you are relying on the Works like Baptism, Communion. That'swhy you are saying the Incomplete Forgiveness at the Cross as one who needs to get the forgiveness every week by the Eucharist.Originally posted by Chemnitz:
And He has promised to connect us to the salvation won on the cross through the means of Baptism, Communion, and the Word. [/QB]
On the Lord's Supper10] For to be baptized in the name of God is to be baptized not by men, but by God Himself. Therefore,
although it is performed by human hands, it is nevertheless truly God's own work. From this fact every one may
himself readily infer that it is a far higher work than any work performed by a man or a saint. For what work
greater than the work of God can we do?
17] Comprehend the difference, then, that Baptism is quite another thing than all other water; not on account of
the natural quality but because something more noble is here added; for God Himself stakes His honor, His
power and might on it. Therefore it is not only natural water, but a divine, heavenly, holy, and blessed water,
and in whatever other terms we can praise it,—all on account of the Word, which is a heavenly, holy Word, that
no one can sufficiently extol, for it has, and is able to do, all that God is and can do [since it has all the virtue
and power of God comprised in it]. 18] Hence also it derives its essence as a Sacrament, as St. Augustine also
taught: Accedat verbum ad elementum et fit sacramentum. That is, when the Word is joined to the element or
natural substance, it becomes a Sacrament, that is, a holy and divine matter and sign.
26] Here you see again how highly and precious we should esteem Baptism, because in it we obtain such an
unspeakable treasure, which also indicates sufficiently that it cannot be ordinary mere water. For mere water
could not do such a thing, but the Word does it, and (as said above) the fact that the name of God is
comprehended therein. 27] But where the name of God is, there must be also life and salvation, that it may
indeed be called a divine, blessed, fruitful, and gracious water; for by the Word such power is imparted to
Baptism that it is a laver of regeneration, as St. Paul also calls it, Titus 3, 5.
28] But as our would-be wise, new spirits assert that faith alone saves, and that works and external things avail
nothing, we answer: It is true, indeed, that nothing in us is of any avail but faith, as we shall hear still further. 29]
But these blind guides are unwilling to see this, namely, that faith must have something which it believes, that
is, of which it takes hold, and upon which it stands and rests. Thus faith clings to the water, and believes that it
is Baptism, in which there is pure salvation and life; not through the water (as we have sufficiently stated), but
through the fact that it is embodied in the Word and institution of God, and the name of God inheres in it. Now,
if I believe this, what else is it than believing in God as in Him who has given and planted His Word into this
ordinance, and proposes to us this external thing wherein we may apprehend such a treasure?
Answer: It is the true body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, in and under the bread and wine which we
Christians are commanded by the Word of Christ to eat and to drink. 9] And as we have said of Baptism that it
is not simple water, so here also we say the Sacrament is bread and wine, but not mere bread and wine, such
as are ordinarily served at the table, but bread and wine comprehended in, and connected with, the Word of
God.
10] It is the Word (I say) which makes and distinguishes this Sacrament, so that it is not mere bread and wine,
but is, and is called, the body and blood of Christ. For it is said: Accedat verbum ad elementum, et fit
sacramentum. If the Word be joined to the element, it becomes a Sacrament. This saying of St. Augustine is so
properly and so well put that he has scarcely said anything better. The Word must make a Sacrament of the
element, else it remains a mere element. 11] Now, it is not the word or ordinance of a prince or emperor, but of
the sublime Majesty, at whose feet all creatures should fall, and affirm it is as He says, and accept it with all
reverence, fear, and humility.
12] With this Word you can strengthen your conscience and say: If a hundred thousand devils, together with all
fanatics, should rush forward, crying, How can bread and wine be the body and blood of Christ? etc., I know
that all spirits and scholars together are not as wise as is the Divine Majesty in His little finger. 13] Now here
stands the Word of Christ: Take, eat; this is My body; Drink ye all of it; this is the new testament in My blood,
etc. Here we abide, and would like to see those who will constitute themselves His masters, and make it
different from what He has spoken. It is true, indeed, that if you take away the Word or regard it without the
words, you have nothing but mere bread and wine. 14] But if the words remain with them, as they shall and
must, then, in virtue of the same, it is truly the body and blood of Christ. For as the lips of Christ say and speak,
so it is, as He can never lie or deceive.
23] On this account it is indeed called a food of souls, which nourishes and strengthens the new man. For by
Baptism we are first born anew; but (as we said before) there still remains, besides, the old vicious nature of
flesh and blood in man, and there are so many hindrances and temptations of the devil and of the world that we
often become weary and faint, and sometimes also stumble.
31] Therefore also it is vain talk when they say that the body and blood of Christ are not given and shed for us
in the Lord's Supper, hence we could not have forgiveness of sins in the Sacrament. For although the work is
accomplished and the forgiveness of sins acquired on the cross, yet it cannot come to us in any other way than
through the Word. For what would we otherwise know about it, that such a thing was accomplished or was to
be given us if it were not presented by preaching or the oral Word? Whence do they know of it, or how can they
apprehend and appropriate to themselves the forgiveness, except they lay hold of and believe the Scriptures
and the Gospel? 32] But now the entire Gospel and the article of the Creed: I believe a holy Christian Church,
the forgiveness of sin, etc., are by the Word embodied in this Sacrament and presented to us. Why, then,
should we allow this treasure to be torn from the Sacrament when they must confess that these are the very
words which we hear every where in the Gospel, and they cannot say that these words in the Sacrament are of
no use, as little as they dare say that the entire Gospel or Word of God, apart from the Sacrament, is of no
use?
Large Catechism
1)Is it wrong if a believer ask about the salvation of others?Originally posted by Chemnitz:
I have asked and I have asked that you quit questioning the salvation of me and others, I ask no longer. I am reporting your last post.
Originally posted by Chemnitz:
2 But as our would-be wise, new spirits assert that faith alone saves, and that works and external things avail nothing, we answer : It is true, indeed, that nothing in us is of any avail but faith, as we shall hear still further . 29]
Thus faith clings to the water , and believes that it
is Baptism, in which there is pure salvation and life;
Now I can understand what is wrong with Lutheran. If Martin Luther stated that, Luther is wrong. If any of his successors establishes such Catechism, they are wrong!
They started from Faith Only then finishes with Faith + Works as
Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Baptism means the official declaration of Salvation already received by Faith alone.
You don't understand this because you don't have the actual experience of this.
I was baptized 5 years before I was truly saived. After my salvation, I was baptized again.
If you are baptized without the actual Being Born Again, even though you are baptized thousand times, you are not saved !
Remember the Robber at the Cross. Was he baptized ? Didn't he get the assurance that he would go to Paradise ?
ASK not Accuse!Originally posted by Eliyahu:
Is it wrong if a believer ask about the salvation of others?
Why do you insist on basing theological principles on extrabiblical sources such as your experiences? Why should I put my trust in something as ephemeral as my flawed experiences and recollections?Baptism means the official declaration of Salvation already received by Faith alone.
You don't understand this because you don't have the actual experience of this.
I was baptized 5 years before I was truly saived. After my salvation, I was baptized again.
Originally posted by Eliyahu:
Why were you baptised twice? And the thief on the cross did undergo baptism - re-read Matt 20:22 and Luke 12:50Originally posted by Chemnitz:
2 But as our would-be wise, new spirits assert that faith alone saves, and that works and external things avail nothing, we answer : It is true, indeed, that nothing in us is of any avail but faith, as we shall hear still further . 29]
Thus faith clings to the water , and believes that it
is Baptism, in which there is pure salvation and life;
Now I can understand what is wrong with Lutheran. If Martin Luther stated that, Luther is wrong. If any of his successors establishes such Catechism, they are wrong!
They started from Faith Only then finishes with Faith + Works as
Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Baptism means the official declaration of Salvation already received by Faith alone.
You don't understand this because you don't have the actual experience of this.
I was baptized 5 years before I was truly saived. After my salvation, I was baptized again.
If you are baptized without the actual Being Born Again, even though you are baptized thousand times, you are not saved !
Remember the Robber at the Cross. Was he baptized ? Didn't he get the assurance that he would go to Paradise ?