True Christian Music is inspired by the Holy Spirit

I guess I don't understand. Are you saying there is some music that is "entirely a product of the Holy Spirit?" </font>[/QUOTE]"Smile"?

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procyon oh procyon - wherefore art tho procyon

we are the church - to have one music outside the church while having another inside the church smacks to me at least of RANKEST HYPOCRISY!

 

I'm not sure this in and of itself is hypocrisy. There is music that I don't believe should be in a worship setting, but I don't believe that a particular genre of music is inherently evil.

Procyon started out the thread by condemning all of CCM as being worldly, fleshly, and unable to touch the spirit. His only basis for that is it has a beat (as well as rhythms and tunes) that he has probably been told is evil and he's accepted it as such. In addition to this, he condemned all CCM artists, questioning their motives, ethics, and salvation. Again, the basis for condemning CCM appears to be the "evil" beat.

The problem here is that if procyon enjoys secular music, then procyon evidently has no problem with listening to the "evil" beat outside of the church, but has a problem with it inside the church. That, my friend, is the hypocrisy. If you accept that a beat can be evil, then it's evil both inside and outside the church.

I challenge whether God is interested in talent and skill or not. If God had no interest in talent and skill, why bother blessing those of us with musical talent with said talent? Why did God tell us to play skillfully (Psalm 33:3)? The talent and skill shouldn't be used to glorify oneself, but that's a different issue than the blanket disparaging of talent and skill.

 

#1
As usual, you've missed the point. The point is not whether you like secular music and whether you like it in church or not. The point is your basis for condemning CCM and CCM artists. You condemn CCM for its beat and rhythms, but you like country and western music, some of which has the identical beat found in CCM.

So, would you care to try again and say why this isn't hypocrisy? Er... let me rephrase that. Would you like to try for the first time to say why this isn't hypocrisy?

#2
The problem is that you don't know me from Adam's 2nd cousin. Don't try and pretend that you know anything about me and what I think worship is about. I think the problem is you need to get off of your high horse.

#3
There you go again, sitting on the judgment seat condemning others and deciding whether they're born of the Spirit or not. Smileys at the end of your post don't make up for your smug, condescending attitude.

 

No problem. As I said, because of your behavior, I really don't have any desire to look at your blogs.

 

Procyon is quite legalistic on all subject matter.

We own a low-power FM radio station and play contemporary Christian music; however, I might add: We are very careful in selection. It must fit doctrine and we will not play head-banging music that you cannot understand the words. Sadly, much of the music that is coming out today is aimed at the biggest CD buying audience---teenagers. Therefore, the CCM is getting heavier and heavier each year.

This is sad because a lot of good talent in the adult contemporary Christian music is not being produced much anymore.

 

Another example that everyone draws a line somewhere, and alludes to some Scriptural principle to justify it.

If God doesn't draw a line, than neither should we. Your exclusion of head-banging music is therefore no less legalistic than procyon has been. But if God DOES draw a line, then it behooves us to discern that line and abide by it.

 

Don't make accusations here Aaron. I NEVER said that head-banging music was inappropriate. I said that we limit the music WE play to adult contemporary music and I also did indicate that record sales are now based on what kids like and that causes a void in good adult contemporary.

Please show me where I tell ANYBODY that the head-banging music is not okay to listen to?

Your interpretation of what I said needs a little legalism to be accurate.

 

Let me add that "head-banging" is a term I am using, and I do not like the music. however, I am NOT forcing my opinion on ANYBODY. clear?

 

Oh, your message is very clear.

No matter how much you deny it, you're drawing a line here. Music that drowns out the words is in appropriate.

Now, either you're doing the right thing with this stipulation, or you're not. In other words, you're either doing God's will or your own. Which is it?

 

procyon wrote:

Do you even know what legalism means? Your posts have been full of legalism, slander, condemnation of brothers and sisters in Christ, condescension, hypocrisy and self-righteousness.

Perhaps you've forgotten these words of Christ recorded in John 13:35.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

BWAAHAHAHAHA!!



A rage? Hardly.

What is this supposed to mean? It sounds like more of the smug and condescending attitude you've shown throughout this thread.

Let me know when you've started talking about real truth, because I haven't seen much of it your posts. However, I have seen quite a bit that has nothing to do with the Jesus Christ that I know and love.

BTW, there are still many questions to you that you have yet to answer.

 

#1, Don't patronize me. I'm not a child.

#2, The onus is on you to answer, not for me to play some game.

#3, You can say that you're not condescending until you're blue in the face, but your previous posts (including the most recent one) show something quite different.

Answer the questions or don't. But, I'm not playing some silly game to get them.

 

Answer my question, then. Would you agree that the carnal mind is at enmity with God?