True Church _IS_ True Israel

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According to that verse, Christ WAS made a CURSE. He is NO LONGER on the cross. By the authority of Scripture, I can truthfully and without hesitation say that Christ is now seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven in a glorified body. Why are you putting Christ back on the cross?

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. (Acts 2:33)

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. (Acts 7:55-56)

Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. (Romans 8:34)

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. (Colossians 3:1)

And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. (Revelation 21:27)

Since nothing that defiles can enter God's presence, we know for sure that Jesus Christ is NOT accursed, else we would know that Jesus is not in heaven. The curse was removed when Jesus was glorified. After all the biblical evidence that Christ is NO LONGER accursed, how can you say that He is?

 

Scripture does declare that "Cursed be every one that hangeth upon a tree", but Christ is no longer on that tree. Christ is now in a glorified body and is sitting at the right hand of the Majesty on High.

When Christ presented His own blood at the altar in Heaven, an angry God granted forgiveness and removed the curse from His Son.

The curse of sinful flesh no longer is upon our Lord, it has been lifted.

 

This was the statement:

"If you were consistent in your theology, the curses of the OT (written in the Book of Deut) would then apply to all the leaders throughout history--Ruth, David, and Christ himself. Why? Because before that time the whole nation had gone astray, and thus according to you the whole nation would have inherited the curse. Do you serve an accursed Christ? What a weird theology you have?"

Was Jesus accursed? Yes. I never said He still was. Notice how no one will answer my questions:

1.Were the curses of Dt. only for the Jewish leaders?

2. Do they still apply today?

 

Yes, answer mine, too. Post #29 will refresh your memory.

 

Oh what the hey! We can give up on DHK answering any significant questions. Let's pretend. What would DHK answer if he actually could answer the question.

Aaron: DHK, why won't you speak to Matthew's treatment of Hosea 11:1?

DHK: Because it undercuts all my Dispensationalist notions about Israel and the Church and the interpretation of OT prophecy. So I'm just going to ignore the questions and they'll go away. :type:

 

"Was Jesus accursed?" was not the question--"Do you serve an accursed Christ?" (you have that underlined too) was the question and you answered: "Yes I serve an accursed Christ:" and you quoted Galatians 3:13.

Now to answer your questions:

No, they were not. They were for EVERYBODY at that time--nobody was exempt. This was spoken to the children of Israel--not the Church.

Deuteronomy 29:24-29 24 Even all nations shall say, Wherefore hath the LORD done thus unto this land? what meaneth the heat of this great anger? 25 Then men shall say, Because they have forsaken the covenant of the LORD God of their fathers, which he made with them when he brought them forth out of the land of Egypt: 26 For they went and served other gods, and worshipped them, gods whom they knew not, and whom he had not given unto them: 27 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in this book: 28 And the LORD rooted them out of their land in anger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as it is this day. 29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

It was the Mosaic Covenant which the children of Israel forsook--the Mosaic Covenant was NOT given to the Church. The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-34), which was given to the nation of Israel, replaces the Mosaic Covenant. Christians share in the spiritual aspects of the New covenant through Christ (Heb 8:13), but the New Covenant was NOT transferred to the Church and does not replace the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants--which will be fulfilled in the Millennial Kingdom along with the New Covenant.

Read Deuteronomy 28:1-68 for the blessings and curses.

As applying to the Church, no, because the blessings and curses were made under the Mosaic Covenant.

Deuteronomy 28:1 1 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:

Deuteronomy 28:15 15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

As pertaining to the Body of Christ/the Church (born again Jew and Gentile) they share in the "spiritual" blessings of the New Covenant through Christ. However, Jesus said:

John 3:36 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 5:24 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

1 John 5:12 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Therefore, the unsaved/lost are under God's wrath; the born again/saved are not under God's wrath, but have passed from death unto life.