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Trump’s Approval Rating Plunges Amid Wave of Pre-Midterm Violence

TCassidy

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It has everything to do with it young fella
I don't think math was his major. Let's see. 1/3 of the Senate is up for reelection. Let's call it 33 seats. If the Republicans take 3/5 of the state races (that is what President Trump did in 2016) that means, rounded off, the Republicans will take 20 seats and the Democrats will take 13. The Democrats will lose 20 and the Republicans will only lose 13. That's the math, and that is why state elections, and the Electoral College are so important to our electoral system.
 

777

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Well, you can win less than fifteen states and still have enough EVs to win the presidency, in theory. There's always a distortion between the national popular vote and the electoral college results - for example, in 1992, Perot got over twenty percent of the vote but no EVs.

When you say "majority", that means over fifty percent. No, no, no, Clinton had a plurality of the popular vote that produced a majority in the EC. There's no way you're going to get rid of that thing and the left shouldn't want to abolish the winner take all method because then they'd only win in big cities and Hawaii.
 

FollowTheWay

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That is only IMMIGRATION amnesty. They have to ALREADY be in the US illegally to apply for IMMIGRATION amnesty. We are talking about ASYLUM amnesty. :rolleyes:
These people are applying for asylum. And Trump is denying them the right to do that.
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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These people are applying for asylum. And Trump is denying them the right to do that.
I really wish you would learn some facts before you make such silly statements.

President Trump has not denied them anything simply because they have not applied for anything.

A foreign national can apply for asylum at any US Embassy or Consulate (none have done so), or, if they are ALREADY LEGALLY in the US they can request asylum from any State Department officer (none are presently in the US legally).
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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Do you really think the candidate who wins the most states wins the election? Yes, I understand the Electoral College. Do you?
Yes, the candidates who win their states win their elections.

And, the Electoral College is made up of Electors equal in number to the total number of Representatives plus the number of Senators from that state. That is why smaller states are not overwhelmed by the larger states. All states have two Senators, therefore there is no 1-1 correlation. The smaller states, per capita, have more Electors than the larger states. That is the whole point of the Electoral College.
 

FollowTheWay

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I really wish you would learn some facts before you make such silly statements.

President Trump has not denied them anything simply because they have not applied for anything.

A foreign national can apply for asylum at any US Embassy or Consulate (none have done so), or, if they are ALREADY LEGALLY in the US they can request asylum from any State Department officer (none are presently in the US legally).
He has denied others seeking asylum or separated children from their parents. Obviously, nothing has happened yet with these people but Trump has sent more troops to the border and said if the immigrants throw a rock at them he will order the troops to shoot to kill. Please TRY to understand the issues before you make a fool out of yourself.
 

FollowTheWay

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Yes, the candidates who win their states win their elections.

And, the Electoral College is made up of Electors equal in number to the total number of Representatives plus the number of Senators from that state. That is why smaller states are not overwhelmed by the larger states. All states have two Senators, therefore there is no 1-1 correlation. The smaller states, per capita, have more Electors than the larger states. That is the whole point of the Electoral College.
And the Electoral College is outdated and should be abolished. It devalues the vote of someone living in a large state. One man one vote should rule.
 

InTheLight

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Trump has sent more troops to the border and said if the immigrants throw a rock at them he will order the troops to shoot to kill.

He didn't say that. Not even close.

Please TRY to understand the issues before you make a fool out of yourself.

Please take your own advice.



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FollowTheWay

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He didn't say that. Not even close.



Please take your own advice.



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Trump said military should shoot rock-throwing migrants. Officials disagree. - CNN

Rock-throwing by migrants has not been fatal to border agents, and it is against Border Patrol and military policy to shoot rock throwers in most circumstances, officials said Friday, in response to a suggestion by President Donald Trump to treat them as if they carried firearms.

Trump said Thursday that US troops -- being deployed along the Mexican border in advance of midterm elections next week -- should treat rocks thrown by migrants as firearms attacks.
"Consider it a rifle," he said. "When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military police, consider it a rifle."
 

HankD

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Trump said military should shoot rock-throwing migrants. Officials disagree. - CNN

Rock-throwing by migrants has not been fatal to border agents, and it is against Border Patrol and military policy to shoot rock throwers in most circumstances, officials said Friday, in response to a suggestion by President Donald Trump to treat them as if they carried firearms.

Trump said Thursday that US troops -- being deployed along the Mexican border in advance of midterm elections next week -- should treat rocks thrown by migrants as firearms attacks.
"Consider it a rifle," he said. "When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military police, consider it a rifle."
Nowhere did he say shoot to kill.
 

InTheLight

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Trump said Thursday that US troops -- being deployed along the Mexican border in advance of midterm elections next week -- should treat rocks thrown by migrants as firearms attacks.
"Consider it a rifle," he said. "When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military police, consider it a rifle."

Yes, I'm not seeing where he said he would order troops to shoot to kill. And he didn't say thrown rocks should be "considered a rifle" he said "consider it a firearm".

FAKE NEWS.

You can see it here:

 

Wingman68

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Trump said military should shoot rock-throwing migrants. Officials disagree. - CNN

Rock-throwing by migrants has not been fatal to border agents, and it is against Border Patrol and military policy to shoot rock throwers in most circumstances, officials said Friday, in response to a suggestion by President Donald Trump to treat them as if they carried firearms.

Trump said Thursday that US troops -- being deployed along the Mexican border in advance of midterm elections next week -- should treat rocks thrown by migrants as firearms attacks.
"Consider it a rifle," he said. "When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military police, consider it a rifle."

Don’t you get tired of being wrong?
Border Patrol agent killed by 'rock throwers' in ambush | Daily Mail Online
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
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And the Electoral College is outdated and should be abolished.
The only thing that keeps our Republic from being dominated by mob rule is the Electoral College and you want to get rid of it. That does not surprise me.

It devalues the vote of someone living in a large state.
It does exactly the opposite. It supports the very basic philosophy of our form of Government, "Rule of the majority, rights of the minority." The Electoral College insures that the Majority does not steamroll over the Minority.

One man one vote should rule.
That is exactly what we have now that you want to do away with. One man gets one vote. No more. Give a single case where the Electoral College results in one man getting more than one vote.

I said above that I am not surprised that you want to do away with our form of government, but on second thought you have given us an excellent example of the ignorance of the left as to the reason for our government being designed the way it is. Contrary to popular opinion, ignorance is NOT bliss. It is foolish and unamerican. Such despicable, overwhelming, massive ignorance is what is wrong with our country. Low information voters are dragging our country down into the third world. :(
 

TCassidy

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He has denied others seeking asylum
No, he hasn't. The law requires that every person seeking asylum in the US be vetted and their case investigated. ICE follows the law to the letter.

or separated children from their parents.
So, you hate little brown babies so much you want to lynch them? You want to throw them in prison even though they have not committed any crime? What in the world did those kids ever do to you that you want to throw them in prison even though they haven't committed any crimes? Why all the hatred for the less fortunate?

Obviously, nothing has happened yet with these people but Trump has sent more troops to the border and said if the immigrants throw a rock at them he will order the troops to shoot to kill.
That is a lie and you know it is a lie. He said no such thing. I live right on the border. The housing for those troops is less than 2 miles from my house. I have talked to some of them and their rules of engagement saying nothing about "shoot to kill." In fact their orders are exactly the opposite. They are never to "shoot to kill." The most they are allowed to do is brandish their firearms in the event of a rock attack, and if forced to shoot to defend their own lives they are only allowed to shoot to stop the attack. No more.

Please TRY to understand the issues before you make a fool out of yourself.
I live in the far, far south of Texas. Right on the US/Mexico border. I see the human misery being caused by the drug cartels and human trafficers who are behind these "caravans." I see the disease and death many of these people suffer. I see the misery such things cause on both sides of the border. I see the bodies of illegal immigrants who have been forced to be drug mules by the cartels, who are financing these attacks on our border. Poor, desperate people forced to swallow condoms full of cocaine or heroin in order to get it across the border. Then the condom bursts in the persons stomach and they died a horrible death from massive overdose.

I minister to these poor people every day. I do all within my power to try to alleviate their horrible suffering. My own 16 year old grandson, who attends the same church as my wife and I do, almost died from Typhus because this part of Texas is the ONLY place in the US where Typhus is still endemic due to the large number of infected illegals coming across the border. And Typhus is not the only deadly disease that is endemic among illegals. Add tuberculosis, AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhoea, leprosy, polio, cholera, diphtheria, and smallpox. These diseases have been all but eradicated in the US but now are on the rise again due to illegal immigration.

Leave your nice safe little house there in Atlanta and come visit me on the border. I will take you for a tour and you can see for yourself, first hand, the misery being caused by the very things you support. The drug mules. The human trafficing. The child molestation. How in the world can anyone call themselves a Christian and support such things?
 

carpro

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Yes, I'm not seeing where he said he would order troops to shoot to kill. And he didn't say thrown rocks should be "considered a rifle" he said "consider it a firearm".

FAKE NEWS.

You can see it here:


CNN. 'Nuff said.


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