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Trump’s defense of Russia prompts outrage from some Republicans

Wingman68

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Just curious as I have never heard a Christian say it is okay to steal in response to be be stolen upon. If you don’t want to explain your reasoning, well then, don’t.
Just curious, I never saw a Christian be able to justify supporting the leftist agenda with any credibility, so......what’s your excuse?!
 

KenH

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Preserving and strengthening such things as Social Security and Medicare is not breaking a command from God.
 

TCassidy

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We have a two party system. We either support one party and its leaders or we support the other.

If the so-called "Republicans" who hate Trump more than they love their country and their fellow man refuse to support him and by so doing diminish his coat-tails then the Democrats will gain control of Congress and every conservative federal judge and every Supreme Court nominee will we blocked and if Trump loses in 2020 the next, Democrat President will appoint left wing baby killers to the highest court in the land.

And all that will be laid squarely at the feet of the anti-Trumpers who have fallen prey to the leftist propaganda.

This is not the country I grew up in, served to protect, and love dearly. :(
 

KenH

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I side with those who love their country over Trump.

Good people can disagree over which candidates to support, or even whether to vote or not. Salvation is not based on politics. A person can be somewhere to the left of Genghis Khan on the political scale without going to Hell. There is not a single set of political positions that one muat take to be saved. The last time I checked the Bible, salvation is by God’s grace and through the gift of faith in Christ Jesus and repentance.
 
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Lewis

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The Founders provided impeachment as a means to remedy a situation where a president turns against the country and refuses to fulfill his oath of office to protect the country. Impeachment is first and foremost a political solution through the members of the house and senate.
You have to have a crime first. Mueller, with unlimited time and funds hasn't been able to find that Trump committed any crimes.
 

Revmitchell

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Romney said Russia was a problem when he debated Obama and Obama literally made fun him in the debate. Kerry and old Joe went on a spree of continueling that childish action in a series of speeches. Obama said "the 1980's wants their foreign policies back".

The truth is two things, one Trumps comments on this were not the best.

However, he had other issues to deal with Putin on and was in a bad spot. Those who think that meeting should have been solely about the attempts at election hacking are just looking for something to gig Trump on. Its not honest. People are calling this treason because they dont like his policies and are looking for reasons to get rid of him. The way they are going after him is unAmerican.
 

Revmitchell

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Treason is a crime. Trump committed it yesterday.

I am going to go ahead and call this statement pureley political, untrue, and a flat out lie. It lacks any sense of integrity and only works to create an unnecessary divide in this country that shouldnt be. In short it is flat out unAmerican.
 

KenH

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You want Pence for president?!?

Yes, I would like to see Trump resign, or impeached and removed, and Pence become president in his stead. As far as I know, Putin does not have something on Pence as he apparently does on Trump, based on Trump’s refusal to confront Putin over his attack on America in the 2016 election and to instead throw the U.S. government’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies under the bus.
 
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KenH

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“The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself. The prosecution of them, for this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole community, and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused.“ - Federalist Paper No. 65
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Yes, I would like to see Trump resign, or impeached and removed, and Pence become president in his stead. As far as I know, Putin does not have something on Pence as he apparently does on Trump, based on Trump’s refusal to confront Putin over his attack on America in the 2016 election and to instead throw the U.S. government’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies under the bus.
You will be in a better position in November if the Dems win the majority. Frankly I would be fearful of putting in socialists and Pense is a wimp... he will sway any way the wind blows.
 

KenH

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I would be fearful of putting in socialists
A rather robust democratic socialism(Social Security, Medicare, public schools, public roads, police and fire protection, etc.) has been the norm in the West, including the United States, for most of the past 100 years, as opposed to Socialism as practiced in the old USSR, where the government controls the means of production.
 

InTheLight

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Treason is a crime. Trump committed it yesterday.

Even the Washington Post disagrees with you.

Trump 'Treason’ in Helsinki? It Doesn’t Hold Up.

...nothing Trump did in Helsinki and nothing he has done otherwise that anyone knows of are likely to qualify as treason, at least by its legal definition.

“Treason against the United States,” says Section 3 of Article III of the U.S. Constitution, “shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” It’s the only crime explicitly defined in the nation’s founding charter. The framers clearly wanted it used sparingly, declaring that “no person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.” The absence of an “overt act,” among other factors, helped former vice president Aaron Burr win an acquittal in 1807 in the most famous treason trial of all, after he was accused of plotting to set up his own empire in the west.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nki-it-doesnt-hold-up/?utm_term=.b31bd68ccaa6
 
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