Trump, 79, Fundraises Off Desperate Push to Get Into Heaven

[Scarlett O.]

So you speak for Wesley now, who apparently could not respond on his own? He did do a like though.

Did you do the same (pray) for Biden and quite a handful of Republicans and Democrats who needed to be saved when he was president? Or did you feel Biden did not need to be saved?

Can you provide some examples?
Did Biden bear the fruit of someone who is born again?

That can be said about a lot of people.

Did you also outline those factual and provable things that gave you tremendous doubt and continue to when Biden was President?
Or did you feel Biden did not need to be saved?

Of course I prayed and STILL pray for Joe Biden and his entire family! Let me explain. I have a prayer list and have HAD a prayer list for years with all sorts of political people on it. I don't discriminate, brother. The entire Biden family, Harris family, Walz family, Pelosi family, Trump family, and Vance family need the Lord. And there are a LOT more that are not written down that I pray for when I see them acting and speaking like the devil.

Can I provide examples of Donald Trump being unsaved? I did that last year around election time and ROYALLY ticked people off to the point I had to step down as a moderator and voluntarily leave. So I'm not going to do that again. If you don't know and can't see - and I'm NOT talking about foul language, the whole world does that - I can't help you. You people who think he is a fine Christian man who lives for the Lord - I can't help you. I can only pray for him.

I voted for him at the last minute and it made me sick. He has done some good and helpful things, but my sorrow is people who believe that being conservative means salvation and being a Trump supporter means salvation and who believe he does NOTHING to show a need for salvation.. And my other sorrow is that Trump is raising up men in his circle to be JUST exactly like him.

No, I have never been on the Baptist Board and outlined the factual and provable things to prove to people here that Biden is a Christian. No one ever championed Biden or claimed his salvation! If they had, I would have shared with them that he and his family do not bear the fruit of salvation.

This is driving me crazy again. I'll just leave you to believe whatever you want about me and my beliefs.

I've already ticked you and who knows who else off.

 

[th1bill]

Okay, I'm baffled, why is the President's salvation being determined by sinners, some saved by grace, and what has Biden's salvation to do with the personal Heavenly Condition of the current President?

 

[Scarlett O.]

Okay, I'm baffled, why is the President's salvation being determined by sinners, some saved by grace, and what has Biden's salvation to do with the personal Heavenly Condition of the current President?

No one is "determining" Trump's salvation.

There are just two opposing schools of thought.

[1] Trump is a Christian - how can you question that?

[2] Trump bears bad fruit - are we certain he knows the Lord?

And the two sides will never understand one another.

 

[Ascetic X]

It is time for Trump to fire Paula White and his other spiritual advisors. Replace them with authentic Christian teachers, rather than mammonist Churchianity frauds.

 

[Mikoo]

Of course I prayed and STILL pray for Joe Biden and his entire family! Let me explain. I have a prayer list and have HAD a prayer list for years with all sorts of political people on it. I don't discriminate, brother. The entire Biden family, Harris family, Walz family, Pelosi family, Trump family, and Vance family need the Lord. And there are a LOT more that are not written down that I pray for when I see them acting and speaking like the devil.

We all need the Lord.

Can I provide examples of Donald Trump being unsaved? I did that last year around election time and ROYALLY ticked people off to the point I had to step down as a moderator and voluntarily leave. So I'm not going to do that again. If you don't know and can't see - and I'm NOT talking about foul language, the whole world does that - I can't help you.

Respectfully, I'm not asking for your help in this matter.

You people who think he is a fine Christian man who lives for the Lord

You have no idea what I think about President Trump.

- I can't help you. I can only pray for him.

Again, I am not asking for your help in this matter.

I voted for him at the last minute and it made me sick.

Unfortunately, there will be no perfect candidates who will run for president.

He has done some good and helpful things, but my sorrow is people who believe that being conservative means salvation and being a Trump supporter means salvation and who believe he does NOTHING to show a need for salvation..

I'm sure there are people who believe that.

And my other sorrow is that Trump is raising up men in his circle to be JUST exactly like him.

Unfortunately, Biden did the same.

No, I have never been on the Baptist Board and outlined the factual and provable things to prove to people here that Biden is a Christian. No one ever championed Biden or claimed his salvation! If they had, I would have shared with them that he and his family do not bear the fruit of salvation.

Are you kidding me?!? Simple Google search.

This is driving me crazy again. I'll just leave you to believe whatever you want about me and my beliefs.

I don't think anything about you or your beliefs. Simply asking questions based on what you write.

I've already ticked you and who knows who else off.

That's quite an assumption. Not 'ticked' at all.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Are you kidding me?!? Simple Google search.

I said "here at the Baptist Board". I never saw anyone here champion Biden or claim him a Godly man.

 

[th1bill]

No one is "determining" Trump's salvation.

There are just two opposing schools of thought.

[1] Trump is a Christian - how can you question that?

[2] Trump bears bad fruit - are we certain he knows the Lord?

And the two sides will never understand one another.

Okay, but you and I, as former staff on different boards, understand. But I am hoping to cause thought in the average poster that is not consulting with the Ruah (Holy Spirit) before posting messages indicating they doubt (judge) Mr Trump's claim of salvation and will cause our younger or/and weaker in the faith Brothers and sisters to err, also.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Okay, but you and I, as former staff on different boards, understand. But I am hoping to cause thought in the average poster that is not consulting with the Ruah (Holy Spirit) before posting messages indicating they doubt (judge) Mr Trump's claim of salvation and will cause our younger or/and weaker in the faith Brothers and sisters to err, also.

Bill, help me out with what you are saying. Can we never question anything he says or does?

My burden is also for those who claim Trump's great Godliness and that he is leading America to heaven. Yes, they are all over the internet. Are they not causing people to err?

I'll try my dead-level best to let this go here. I won't ever stop praying for him, Biden and all the rest. I just don't understand those who believe Trump to be untouchable.