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[FollowTheWay]

This again - many of these types of democracies and republics are subsets of the other group, definitions change with time but if you want to be technical, the US is/was/hopefully will continue to be a federal republic in the strictest since. This is why:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

It does have democratic features (direct election of Congress) but it's a federal republic all the way.

https://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html

Q76. "Is the United States a constitutional republic? Is one of the purposes of a constitutional republic to protect the rights of minorities from the tyranny of the majority?"

A. The United States is a federal republic and a constitutional representative democracy.

I don't know why so many people make a big deal about this. It has nothing to do with our two political parties.

 

[church mouse guy]

Nothing to do with the question.

Everything to do with your Democrat Party.

 

[JonC]

In what way are they different? Why wouldn't slavery have been abolished in a Representative Democracy?

A representative democracy is a democracy governed through representation (like voting fir a representative).

A republic is governed by a standing set of principles or laws (like a Constitution). The minority is protected under a republic in ways they are not under a democracy (or a representative democracy). That is why our founding fathers made it unquestionably clear that they did not envision a democracy.

Were we strictly a representative democracy then slavery could have been abolished through a vote, but I do not know that it would have. And if it was abolished it could always be reinstated.

 

[JonC]

https://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html

Q76. "Is the United States a constitutional republic? Is one of the purposes of a constitutional republic to protect the rights of minorities from the tyranny of the majority?"

A. The United States is a federal republic and a constitutional representative democracy.

I don't know why so many people make a big deal about this. It has nothing to do with our two political parties.

Because the Democrat Party is leaning to "democratic socialusm", which is not the federal republic and constitutional representive democracy of the past.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The Democratic run House should be even lower, as they are being run by real fanatics!

Show me then. Are you saying because they oppose trump they are real fanatics?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Because the Democrat Party is leaning to "democratic socialusm", which is not the federal republic and constitutional representive democracy of the past.

Oh!?! Then please define the 12 year FDR administration? Would you consider Roosevelt a radical Socialist?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

WPA, Social security, unemployment insurance, CCC, Glass Stengel, to name a few.

 

[JonC]

Oh!?! Then please define the 12 year FDR administration? Would you consider Roosevelt a radical Socialist?

I never experienced FDR's administration. From your reply I take it FDR was akin to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Nancy Pelosi.

Either that or the Democrat Party we have is not the Democrat party of FDR.

But I'll defer to my elder's here. FDR died 23 years before I was born.

 

[JonC]

WPA, Social security, unemployment insurance, CCC, Glass Stengel, to name a few.

Ah. I see your point.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Ah. I see your point.

Yes.... factor in that the country was in a deep depression and at the brink then in a world war. He kept some working and ... well long to short, changed the field for many. I sincerely doubt that today’s Democratic Party has his intelligence or stamina to change the world as we know it.

 

[FollowTheWay]

A representative democracy is a democracy governed through representation (like voting fir a representative).

A republic is governed by a standing set of principles or laws (like a Constitution). The minority is protected under a republic in ways they are not under a democracy (or a representative democracy). That is why our founding fathers made it unquestionably clear that they did not envision a democracy.

Were we strictly a representative democracy then slavery could have been abolished through a vote, but I do not know that it would have. And if it was abolished it could always be reinstated.

It seems as if you're arguing that a republic is governed exclusively by the constitution. Do you include the amendments to the constitution. What about laws passed by Congress? What about executive edicts?

This is a website which contains some good information about the Constitution. What's the source of your position, Breitbart?
https://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html

Q76. "Is the United States a constitutional republic? Is one of the purposes of a constitutional republic to protect the rights of minorities from the tyranny of the majority?"
A. The United States is a federal republic and a constitutional representative democracy.

The "federal" part is one of three basic types of organization of power — unitary, confederal, and federal. Most nations are unitary in nature (local government with a powerful national government). There are no confederacies that I know of at this time (the U.S., under the Articles of Confederation was one; Germany and Switzerland have also had confederate systems in the past). Federal systems are common among large nations where several levels of government are needed. Australia, Canada, and Brazil are federal as well. Federations do not always work, such as in the case of the United Arab Republic.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Because the Democrat Party is leaning to "democratic socialusm", which is not the federal republic and constitutional representive democracy of the past.

Parties change. The Republican party today is not the party of Lincoln. They were the liberals of that time and fought for emancipation of the slaves. During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power.

Eric Rauchway, professor of American history at the University of California, Davis, pins the transition to the turn of the 20th century, when a highly influential Democrat named William Jennings Bryan blurred party lines by emphasizing the government's role in ensuring social justice through expansions of federal power — traditionally, a Republican stance.

Democrats seized upon a way of ingratiating themselves to western voters: Republican federal expansions in the 1860s and 1870s had turned out favorable to big businesses based in the northeast, such as banks, railroads and manufacturers, while small-time farmers like those who had gone west received very little. Both parties tried to exploit the discontent this generated, by promising the little guy some of the federal largess that had hitherto gone to the business sector. From this point on, Democrats stuck with this stance — favoring federally funded social programs and benefits — while Republicans were gradually driven to the counter-position of hands-off government.
Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms?

FDR moved the Democrats significantly in this direction with his New Deal designed to get us out of the Great Depression. Reagan supported smaller government and reduced government spending but in reality produced neither.

 

[church mouse guy]

Parties change. The Republican party today is not the party of Lincoln. They were the liberals of that time and fought for emancipation of the slaves. During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power.

Eric Rauchway, professor of American history at the University of California, Davis, pins the transition to the turn of the 20th century, when a highly influential Democrat named William Jennings Bryan blurred party lines by emphasizing the government's role in ensuring social justice through expansions of federal power — traditionally, a Republican stance.

Democrats seized upon a way of ingratiating themselves to western voters: Republican federal expansions in the 1860s and 1870s had turned out favorable to big businesses based in the northeast, such as banks, railroads and manufacturers, while small-time farmers like those who had gone west received very little. Both parties tried to exploit the discontent this generated, by promising the little guy some of the federal largess that had hitherto gone to the business sector. From this point on, Democrats stuck with this stance — favoring federally funded social programs and benefits — while Republicans were gradually driven to the counter-position of hands-off government.
Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms?

FDR moved the Democrats significantly in this direction with his New Deal designed to get us out of the Great Depression. Reagan supported smaller government and reduced government spending but in reality produced neither.

Where do you find all this leftist garbage. The GOP has always been the party of Lincoln in contrast to the Dems who were the party of slavery, KKK, Jim Crow, lynching of both Blacks and Republicans, poll tax, abortion, same-sex marriage, and socialism.

FDR was a racist although he was not as bad as Wilson who fired all Black civil servants.

We never switched platforms with the Dems. The Dems are still racist, still for abortion, still for sodomy, and still for socialism so that they can control every aspect of human life just as they did back on the plantations.

 

[777]

Because that's the way his party can take credit for the GOP's ideas and also distance his party from their own sordid past.

I don't know why so many people make a big deal about this. It has nothing to do with our two political parties.

old argument, though, remember the Democratic-Republican party? From what I recall from the fifth grade, the Articles of Confederation were more "republican" than "democratic". "Federal republics", "representative democracies", I agree with that guy that said any representative democracy would devolve into an oligarchy if certain conditions weren't met - THE IRON LAW OF OLIGARCHY has reared its ugly head in America, and the system really needs to be changed. I'd go for stochocracy myself, and eliminate all the corrupt hierarchical bureaucracy.

*cough* deep state *cough*

 

[Yeshua1]

Show me then. Are you saying because they oppose trump they are real fanatics?

No, because they are extreme liberals, whose basic positions are against God and America!

 

[Revmitchell]

It seems as if you're arguing that a republic is governed exclusively by the constitution. Do you include the amendments to the constitution. What about laws passed by Congress? What about executive edicts?

This is a website which contains some good information about the Constitution. What's the source of your position, Breitbart?
https://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q76.html

What a sophomoric post. Amendments to the constitution are the constitution. Not sure why that needs explaining. Laws passed by congress are governed by the constitution.

 

[just-want-peace]

Just hit me this AM, that the libs desperate need for the demise of Trump is VERY MUCH akin to the "Peanuts" comic strip where every Halloween lil' ole Linus (I think) is POSITIVE that THIS YEAR the GREAT PUMPKIN will visit him in the pumpkin patch; but somehow it just never happens!!
Next thing we'll hear is that Melania got a parking ticket 5 years ago -- "The walls are closing in!!"

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No, because they are extreme liberals, whose basic positions are against God and America!

So you are equating trump to God?