He will not never tread carefully on gun control. Don't you know that to the rider of the red horse power was given to him to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another? Also was given unto him a great sword. Sword means Word, in this case, evil words.
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He will not never tread carefully on gun control. Don't you know that to the rider of the red horse power was given to him to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another? Also was given unto him a great sword. Sword means Word, in this case, evil words.
Why do you say that?
He is not the rider of the red horse at least not yet - he has started no wars.
The first seal has not been opened yet. Furthermore, a sword means a sword because the literal meaning makes sense. The rider of the red horse will be given permission to make war. Matthew Henry, the great Puritan commentator, says "That those who will not submit to the bow of the gospel must expect to be cut in sunder by the sword of divine justice."
Oh how I wish that Alexander Scourby had read Matthew Henry aloud on an audiobook!
Oh how I wish that Alexander Scourby had read Matthew Henry aloud on an audiobook!
There are as many interpretations of the Four Horsemen as there are authors.
Because it will fulfil literally henceforward.
Yes, he is surely, The rider of the red horse is already making his works. In this first moment his work is to
take peace from the earth, step by step.
Who will be War now is the Most High God against the nations ruled by the spirit of Evil. He will destroy them which destroy the earth. Rev.11:v.18
church mouse guy post: The first seal has not been opened yet.
Well, I understand why you are thinking so, for the Lord's Church is suffering terrible attacks through a flood of apostasy, this makes it difficult to understand the things revealed evidently.
JESUS open the SEALED book - book of Apocalypse - and break up one of its seven seals.
REVELATION 6
v.1
John saw when JESUS opened one of the seals, and he heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four Cherubs saying, Come and see.
v.2
And John saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a BOW; and a crown was given unto him: and he goes forth conquering, and to conquer.
As all can see, one of the four Cherubs did call John and shows to him a white horse and its noble rider, to whom was given a BOW and a crown and he goes forth conquering, and to conquer to establish the Kingdom of God.
This first seal reveals the PROPHETIC union between Christ and His Church, as it is revealed in Psalms 45:v.2-8 combined with Revelation 19, among others Scriptures, as follows:
PS. 45
v.2 Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.
v.3 Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.
v.4 And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of TRUTH and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
v.5 Thine ARROWS (this is the reason by which was given to the noble rider a BOW) are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.
v.6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
v.7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
v.8 All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
Well, I understand why you are thinking so, for the Lord's Church is suffering terrible attacks through a flood of apostasy, this makes it difficult to understand the things revealed evidently.
JESUS open the SEALED book - book of Apocalypse - and break up one of its seven seals.
REVELATION 6
v.1
John saw when JESUS opened one of the seals, and he heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four Cherubs saying, Come and see.
v.2
And John saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a BOW; and a crown was given unto him: and he goes forth conquering, and to conquer.
As all can see, one of the four Cherubs did call John and shows to him a white horse and its noble rider, to whom was given a BOW and a crown and he goes forth conquering, and to conquer to establish the Kingdom of God.
This first seal reveals the PROPHETIC union between Christ and His Church, as it is revealed in Psalms 45:v.2-8 combined with Revelation 19, among others Scriptures, as follows:
PS. 45
v.2 Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever.
v.3 Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.
v.4 And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of TRUTH and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
v.5 Thine ARROWS (this is the reason by which was given to the noble rider a BOW) are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee.
v.6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
v.7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
v.8 All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad.
Yeah, and a lot of them are nuts. The first rule of hermeneutics is to take things literally wherever possible. So that throws out the idea that the sword is just words because you would think that one who was given authority would have a sword to do what had to be done. No one knows anything about a first seal having been opened and who is the second beast and who has had the power given to him to take peace from the earth, which is the reason for the sword? You can't just say that Trump says things that I don't like so therefore this is about Trump. And you yourself pointed out that Trump has not started any wars. And as Matthew Henry pointed out about this passage, it is the non-Christians who are going to be slain for their unbelief sooner or later.
So no, this trying to fit Trump into Revelation 6 is nonsense on stilts.
Revelation 6:3-4 (KJV) And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Yea we are getting a lot of cooky beliefs on the board lately. I mean real weird.
No, he is not, if anything he is the rider on the white horse of Revelation 6.
Like I said he could be the rider on the white horse.
Commentaries differ fantastically on the ID of the rider on the white horse from some saying it is Christ to others saying he is the antichrist.
I don't believe Trump is the antichrist.
But the rider of the white horse doesn't necessarily have to be Christ or the antichrist.
If Trump is the rider of the white horse with the bow (with no arrows) I would say the Putin is the next rider - the red horse - and he makes nuclear war on planet earth.
Speculative theology - subdivision speculative eschatology.
And I guarantee you they're unconstitutional.
No hearing is held that would even come close to "due process" until 14 days after confiscation.
[QUOTEchurch mouse guy
No one knows anything about a first seal having been opened... [/QUOTE]
We must believe in the written Word of God, by the way, the Word is God, the invisible God. Amos 3:v.7 says: "Surely the Lord God - the Word is God - will do nothing, but he revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets.
JESUS - the Word made flesh - the Word is God - said: John 15:v.15 - 15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. The book of Apocalypse is 100% Revelation that God the Father gave to JESUS to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass... Rev.1:v.1
So we cannot or should not deny Scruptures by our own thoughts.
No one knows anything about a first seal having been opened... [/QUOTE]
We must believe in the written Word of God, by the way, the Word is God, the invisible God. Amos 3:v.7 says: "Surely the Lord God - the Word is God - will do nothing, but he revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets.
JESUS - the Word made flesh - the Word is God - said: John 15:v.15 - 15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. The book of Apocalypse is 100% Revelation that God the Father gave to JESUS to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass... Rev.1:v.1
So we cannot or should not deny Scruptures by our own thoughts.
[QUOTEchurch mouse guy :
So no, this trying to fit Trump into Revelation 6 is nonsense on stilts.
Revelation 6:3-4 (KJV) And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.[/QUOTE]
The book of Revelation is no longer sealed, it was opened near two thousand years ago. And the purpose of JESUS was to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass. If we want to see and understand Revelation we need to heed the call or the voice of the angel of the Lord, indeed an archangel: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
So no, this trying to fit Trump into Revelation 6 is nonsense on stilts.
Revelation 6:3-4 (KJV) And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.[/QUOTE]
The book of Revelation is no longer sealed, it was opened near two thousand years ago. And the purpose of JESUS was to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass. If we want to see and understand Revelation we need to heed the call or the voice of the angel of the Lord, indeed an archangel: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
QUOTE: HankD wrote:
Commentaries differ fantastically on the ID of the rider on the white horse from some saying it is Christ to others saying he is the antichrist.
There is only one white horse in Scriptures and its rider is also only one, and he fight in different times and situations.
The rider of the white horse is of the LORD, to say he is the Antichrist is a blaspheme. He is the same of Revelation 19:v.11 - ... he does Judge and make War.
[QUOTE="HankD
I don't believe Trump is the antichrist.[/QUOTE]
Right. Trump is not the head of Antichrist, he is not the son of perdition or the MAN of sin, a former Cherub, but he belongs to the hosts of the head of Antichrist.
[QUOTEHankD
But the rider of the white horse doesn't necessarily have to be Christ or the antichrist.[/QUOTE]
Your answer was wise. The rider of the white horse is not JESUS, and he is not also the Antichrist, as it has been supposed by many many.
[QUOTE HankD] If Trump is the rider of the white horse with the bow (with no arrows) I would say the Putin is the next rider - the red horse - and he makes nuclear war on planet earth.
Speculative theology - subdivision speculative eschatology.[/QUOTE]
Yes, to say things like was written is mere speculation, not Revelation,
I must say that two riders are running in the world scenario of the present time, they are of the white and of the red horses.
The riders of the black and pales horses, both are in the way and we will know them soon.
Commentaries differ fantastically on the ID of the rider on the white horse from some saying it is Christ to others saying he is the antichrist.
There is only one white horse in Scriptures and its rider is also only one, and he fight in different times and situations.
The rider of the white horse is of the LORD, to say he is the Antichrist is a blaspheme. He is the same of Revelation 19:v.11 - ... he does Judge and make War.
[QUOTE="HankD
I don't believe Trump is the antichrist.[/QUOTE]
Right. Trump is not the head of Antichrist, he is not the son of perdition or the MAN of sin, a former Cherub, but he belongs to the hosts of the head of Antichrist.
[QUOTEHankD
But the rider of the white horse doesn't necessarily have to be Christ or the antichrist.[/QUOTE]
Your answer was wise. The rider of the white horse is not JESUS, and he is not also the Antichrist, as it has been supposed by many many.
[QUOTE HankD] If Trump is the rider of the white horse with the bow (with no arrows) I would say the Putin is the next rider - the red horse - and he makes nuclear war on planet earth.
Speculative theology - subdivision speculative eschatology.[/QUOTE]
Yes, to say things like was written is mere speculation, not Revelation,
I must say that two riders are running in the world scenario of the present time, they are of the white and of the red horses.
The riders of the black and pales horses, both are in the way and we will know them soon.
The Book is sealed. John saw what it would be like when the seals were opened. The book in question is not John's book. Trump is not one of the 4 horsemen. It is non-Christians who have the most to worry about as time goes by and the world comes to an end.
The book of Revelation is no longer sealed, it was opened near two thousand years ago. And the purpose of JESUS was to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass. If we want to see and understand Revelation we need to heed the call or the voice of the angel of the Lord, indeed an archangel: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.[/QUOTE]
The book of Revelation is no longer sealed, it was opened near two thousand years ago. And the purpose of JESUS was to shew unto His servants things which must come to pass. If we want to see and understand Revelation we need to heed the call or the voice of the angel of the Lord, indeed an archangel: Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.[/QUOTE]