Trump Derangement or Strong Delusion

[Eric B]

Hi all, again!

I'm a bit shocked by some of what is being said, though I've seen it before among “populist” circles, but I find it highlx ironic. Liberals were always the ones talking about the “rich”; the “1%”, “.1%”, “.01%”, etc. and the conservatives (including here) always the ones excoriating them; telling them to “stop envying“, “stop coveting“, they “deserve” it, they “earned” it, if you want to have more like them, stop “whining” and just pull yourself up by the bootstraps, and that the problem was the undeselving poor getting all the money (via “taxes”).
Yet now, when tied to “globalism”, it's the conservatives all of a sudden complaining about “billionaires”! And do you really think Trump is going to be the one to stop them? Has he ever given any indication of anything like that? Or is he more like another one of them himself, and giving them more of our tax dollars? (So why would they “hate“ him just because of borders or Christian moral issues? They have the power either way, and these often become smokescreen issues used to distract).

So it looks both the left and right now are pointing at the same group in the world, yet blaming each other for them, and thus staying so divided, no one will be able to do anything about the problem, except go to war against others of the same class, if not poorer, seen as the beneficiaries of this rich class, rather than they benefitting only themselves.

 

[Revmitchell]

Hi all, again!

I'm a bit shocked by some of what is being said, though I've seen it before among “populist” circles, but I find it highlx ironic. Liberals were always the ones talking about the “rich”; the “1%”, “.1%”, “.01%”, etc. and the conservatives (including here) always the ones excoriating them; telling them to “stop envying“, “stop coveting“, they “deserve” it, they “earned” it, if you want to have more like them, stop “whining” and just pull yourself up by the bootstraps, and that the problem was the undeselving poor getting all the money (via “taxes”).
Yet now, when tied to “globalism”, it's the conservatives all of a sudden complaining about “billionaires”! And do you really think Trump is going to be the one to stop them? Has he ever given any indication of anything like that? Or is he more like another one of them himself, and giving them more of our tax dollars? (So why would they “hate“ him just because of borders or Christian moral issues? They have the power either way, and these often become smokescreen issues used to distract).

So it looks both the left and right now are pointing at the same group in the world, yet blaming each other for them, and thus staying so divided, no one will be able to do anything about the problem, except go to war against others of the same class, if not poorer, seen as the beneficiaries of this rich class, rather than they benefitting only themselves.

Billionaires who are globalists using the money to effct change in our country even though many of them do not come from here. i.e. Soros. You made a poor attempt to compare two things which are not comparable.

 

[Eric B]

“Two things that are not comparable?” So the billionaires are divided between those who are against America and Christianity, and what, those who are “for” us? It seems in the OP, all of the world's “2200 billionaire families” are being implicated, not just Soros and the Rothschilds. It was “the rich” in general, and even linked to a scripture mentioning “the great men on earth”.
Bezos was mentioned in there as well, and isn't he an “American eturerpreneur”, and thus what conservatives would consider one of the good ones? (And of course, the Kochs are always omitted; for I guess they're supposed to be pro-America. I would think they all might be playing a huge game of chess with all of us)
The point is, why is what these billionaires are doing always seen as revolving ariund America and taking away our “sovereignty“, to the poinzt that this is what defines “the Christ of the Bible” versus a “perverted version of a false 'christ'", and thus, the “lie” of Thessalonians and Satan's master scheme? Is the entirety of prophecy concerning Christ and tha battle against Ssatan about us and our national sovereignty? A nation that didn't eoen exist in biblical times, and has no scriptural significance over any onher nation where Christians live?
Might not a nation and people fighting for such “identity“ and temporal power in a sinful world (rather than Christ's actual kingdom) figure more in the endtime “lie”? (Like those Israelites back then who were fighting for their 'sovereignty', and ultimately against Christ who was seen as subverting or at least helping erode it).

 

[poor-in-spirit]

“Two things that are not comparable?” So the billionaires are divided between those who are against America and Christianity, and what, those who are “for” us? It seems in the OP, all of the world's “2200 billionaire families” are being implicated, not just Soros and the Rothschilds. It was “the rich” in general, and even linked to a scripture mentioning “the great men on earth”.
Bezos was mentioned in there as well, and isn't he an “American eturerpreneur”, and thus what conservatives would consider one of the good ones? (And of course, the Kochs are always omitted; for I guess they're supposed to be pro-America. I would think they all might be playing a huge game of chess with all of us)
The point is, why is what these billionaires are doing always seen as revolving ariund America and taking away our “sovereignty“, to the poinzt that this is what defines “the Christ of the Bible” versus a “perverted version of a false 'christ'", and thus, the “lie” of Thessalonians and Satan's master scheme? Is the entirety of prophecy concerning Christ and tha battle against Ssatan about us and our national sovereignty? A nation that didn't eoen exist in biblical times, and has no scriptural significance over any onher nation where Christians live?
Might not a nation and people fighting for such “identity“ and temporal power in a sinful world (rather than Christ's actual kingdom) figure more in the endtime “lie”? (Like those Israelites back then who were fighting for their 'sovereignty', and ultimately against Christ who was seen as subverting or at least helping erode it).

My friend, I cannot open your eyes if you insist on keeping them shut. All the answers to your concerns are in the OP post but you seem to refuse to acknowledge them. I post this as a warning only. Please understand that do not need you to agree, or to even read it; I just needed to post it. I pray that makes sense to you.

 

[Eric B]

My concerns are not answered in the OP, they are just asserted, and it's about all of God's plans revolving around us, and all evil is all isolated and split off onto this one supposed "other" group. (Should add, regarding as for the KKK, etc. they were hardly leftists, and foight for many of the same "American values", "soverignty", states rights", etc. we still hear today. They may have been mostly Democrats, but when party began adopting Civil Rights and leftist policies, those people naturally felt betrayed and left that party, but people keep harping this "party" affiliation like today's parties are made up of the same exact people from 50-150 years ago).

Adopting a ridiculous and unrealistic belief system like that is what's "keeping one's eyes closed", and as I said precisely what led first century Israel to the deception that led to their demise. Scripture has concluded "ALL under sin"; so there are no "good guys and bad guys" in general like that.