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Trump Fires National Security Advisor John Bolton

InTheLight

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Bolton wanted to retaliate against Iran for shooting down one of our drones. Trump disagreed with him. (Didn't we deny a drone was shot down?)

Was Bolton too hawkish for Trump?

Musical chairs in the White House continues...
 

Revmitchell

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It happens in every admin. No we did not deny it was shot down in fact Trump called off a bombing the last minute
 

Reynolds

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Bolton wanted to retaliate against Iran for shooting down one of our drones. Trump disagreed with him. (Didn't we deny a drone was shot down?)

Was Bolton too hawkish for Trump?

Musical chairs in the White House continues...
The contention was over whose airspace it was shot down in.
 

InTheLight

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Thanks for refreshing my memory on the drone.

I'm going to guess that Bolton was upset at Trump for wanting to hold talks with the Taliban at Camp David. Turns out Trump cancelled the talks after the Taliban killed at least one American serviceman and a dozen Afghans recently.

I had to chuckle when I realized that all during "Sharpie-Gate" when libs heads were exploding because Trump was "wasting his time" talking about Alabama possibly being in the path of a hurricane he was in reality negotiating with the Taliban.
 

Reynolds

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Thanks for refreshing my memory on the drone.

I'm going to guess that Bolton was upset at Trump for wanting to hold talks with the Taliban at Camp David. Turns out Trump cancelled the talks after the Taliban killed at least one American serviceman and a dozen Afghans recently.

I had to chuckle when I realized that all during "Sharpie-Gate" when libs heads were exploding because Trump was "wasting his time" talking about Alabama possibly being in the path of a hurricane he was in reality negotiating with the Taliban.
I am majorly ticked off that he is negotiating with the Taliban.I thought we didn't negotiate with Terrorists. I thought the Taliban were terrorists. Am I missing something?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I am majorly ticked off that he is negotiating with the Taliban.I thought we didn't negotiate with Terrorists. I thought the Taliban were terrorists. Am I missing something?
Perhaps. Trump is making it unclear what he was up to. He has pulled out of the talks. He also says we have been going after the Taliban big league lately.

We negotiate with terrorists--and have for a long time. It’s how we got the American hostages back from Iran.
 

HankD

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OK so WWIII is postponed a couple of months?

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church mouse guy

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Bolton wanted to retaliate against Iran for shooting down one of our drones. Trump disagreed with him. (Didn't we deny a drone was shot down?)

Was Bolton too hawkish for Trump?

Musical chairs in the White House continues...

1. We finally jammed one of their drones and downed it.

2. Bolton probably was too hawkish for Trump so I think that you have the answer there.

3. I didn't notice if Bolton undercut Trump in public the way that Den Coats did. I want out of Afghanistan, also, but I think that we have to undo Obama's rules of engagement and let the military kill the Taliban totally. Kabul cannot stand without us. Our mistake was the idea that we could nation-built in Afghanistan so we acquired allies that are too weak to stand alone.

4. Russia has a professional state department. The USA does not have a professional state department. No one bothers to clean up foggy bottom and cut it down to size. It seems to be a repository of political hacks instead of professional experts. It is a national disgrace.

5, Trump has an unrealistic view of Islam. Iran gave Osama Bin Laden safe haven until 2010 and then Pakistan gave him safe haven until we killed him there. Islam is a militaristic doctrine and has conducted war the last 1400 years and will continue so to do until they have conquered the world and destroyed civilization.
 

Aaron

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Yeah, not happy with Trump over this, but still preferable to what we would have been treated to with practically anyone else.
 

HankD

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After the smoke clears Bolton will probably make several appearances on Fox News vindicating himself.
 

Adonia

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Or go quietly.

Now who is really telling the truth here? Trump just can't let anyone be seen to get one over on him. So in the end, I think Trump is the less than truthful person in this "resignation" incident.
 
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