Trump gets border wall funds, money for military

[carpro]

No problem, but at least back it up. What exactly am I spinning? I'm merely saying not all is doom and gloom and politics takes time and patience. It's a marathon not a sprint. You think that's a spin? Explain.

I didn't say you spun anything, but it seems you are too willing to buy the party spin, when the truth is democrats whipped the republicans again on the budget.

For 6 years , republicans gave Obama everything he wanted. They funded all his illegal actions. With a couple of minor exceptions, one would think he was still president. They're still funding most of his agenda.

If they don't hold firm in September, Trump will be a one term president. They just can't keep spitting in the faces of the people that put them in office.

 

[Calminian]

I didn't say you spun anything, but it seems you are too willing to buy the party spin, when the truth is democrats whipped the republicans again on the budget.

For 6 years , republicans gave Obama everything he wanted. They funded all his illegal actions. With a couple of minor exceptions, one would think he was still president. They're still funding most of his agenda.

If they don't hold firm in September, Trump will be a one term president. They just can't keep spitting in the faces of the people that put them in office.

No I'm not buying the spin of the democrats, you're are right. Trump didn't get all he wanted in this budget which was last years budget. But he got a lot including more bricks for the wall. It's a process and it grueling. But total defeat? Don't buy the hype.

 

[carpro]

Don't buy the hype.

Consider taking your own advice.

 

[Calminian]

Consider taking your own advice.

Just asking you to back it up. What hype have I bought? You've gone silent every time I ask.

 

[carpro]

Just asking you to back it up. What hype have I bought? You've gone silent every time I ask.

Baloney. I rarely go silent, but I do expect people to read their own OP

You bought it all.

It's nothing more than republican spin to cover up the fact they capitulated to democrats once again.

 

[Calminian]

Baloney. I rarely go silent, but I do expect people to read their own OP

You bought it all.

It's nothing more than republican spin to cover up the fact they capitulated to democrats once again.

I think the liberal media is sitting on your brain and poking the backs of your eyes. Cheer up, the sky is not falling. You'll see soon enough.

 

[carpro]

I think the liberal media is sitting on your brain and poking the backs of your eyes. Cheer up, the sky is not falling. You'll see soon enough.

I could say the same for you and republican spin, but I'll pass on the insults and stick to the facts.

He has till September to show some budgetary backbone. Right now, Trump is on probation with me.

 

[Happy]

Again, most of the EO's that Trump has issued are mere directives for further study or for a government review. They don't actually DO anything.

Why don't you read a few of them and learn more?

Why don't you recognize, you are not a Secretary appointed to the staff of the President, and the EO's are not directives to you?

What do you mean, they are "mere directives" and don't actually DO anything....

Of course the ORDER, ie the written text doesn't jump off the paper and DO anything, but the officer for whom the "DIRECTIVE" is ordered, are by law obliged to obey the "directive", ie ORDER.

Why don't you read the LAW that provides for EO's, and their force and effect per the Law, and learn more?

 

[Happy]

Really. I don't think anybody here knew that.

Thanks for the lesson.

Really, I think alot of people think they are "subject to" the President.
Like, people are "forced" to purchase Healthcare Insurance. Pfft. Uh no, the Government was never authorized to force the people to buy anything.

 

[Calminian]

I could say the same for you and republican spin, but I'll pass on the insults and stick to the facts.

He has till September to show some budgetary backbone. Right now, Trump is on probation with me.

Well we shall see. For me, I'm chilling for a couple years and enjoying the new Supreme Court. Trump is manipulative. He'll eventually get everything he wants.

 

[Calminian]

And don't look now......

NEW LIFE FOR OBAMACARE REPEAL


Do we dare get our hopes up?

 

[InTheLight]

No I'm not buying the spin of the democrats, you're are right. Trump didn't get all he wanted in this budget which was last years budget. But he got a lot including more bricks for the wall.

No, no, no. It wasn't last year's budget. It was a stop-gap measure to fund the government for the next5 months.

He didn't get money for bricks in the wall. In fact, there was a specific clause stating that no money would go for building the wall.

Don't buy the hype.

Say that to yourself in the mirror.

 

[Calminian]

...He didn't get money for bricks in the wall. In fact, there was a specific clause stating that no money would go for building the wall.

Yes, this is the mantra, but it's apparently been debunked. Newt was saying they didn't read the fine print, and funds are available for all kinds of things for the wall. We've got wall funding in a bill that was supposed to just be a compromise.

BTW, are you pro-Wall?

 

[InTheLight]

Why don't you recognize, you are not a Secretary appointed to the staff of the President, and the EO's are not directives to you?

What do you mean, they are "mere directives" and don't actually DO anything....

Take the Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety. It stipulates a task force be established to study the issue.
I hereby direct the Attorney General to establish, and to appoint or designate an individual or individuals to chair, a Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety (Task Force).
Presidential Executive Order on a Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety

Or Preventing Violence Against Law Enforcement Officials
It's supposed to:
develop strategies, in a process led by the Department of Justice (Department) and within the boundaries of the Constitution and existing Federal laws, to further enhance the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers; and
[..]
(a) develop a strategy for the Department's use of existing Federal laws to prosecute individuals who commit or attempt to commit crimes of violence
Presidential Executive Order on Preventing Violence Against Federal, State, Tribal, and Local Law Enforcement Officers

Or how about the Restoring the Rule of Law, Federalism, and Economic Growth Order?
It directs The Administrator, the Assistant Secretary, and the heads of all executive departments and agencies shall review all orders, rules, regulations, guidelines, or policies implementing or enforcing the final rule, "Clean Water Rule: Definition of 'Waters of the United States,'" 80 Fed. Reg. 37054 (June 29, 2015)
Presidential Executive Order on Restoring the Rule of Law, Federalism, and Economic Growth by Reviewing the "Waters of the United States" Rule

Or how about the Comprehensive Plan for Reorganizing the Executive Branch?
It directs the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (Director) to propose a plan to reorganize governmental functions and eliminate unnecessary agencies
Presidential Executive Order on a Comprehensive Plan for Reorganizing the Executive Branch

How about the Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis?
The mission of the Commission shall be to study the scope and effectiveness of the Federal response to drug addiction and the opioid crisis described in section 1 of this order and to make recommendations to the President for improving that response.
Presidential Executive Order Establishing the President’s Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis

How about Cracking Down on Significant Trade Deficits?
Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Commerce and the United States Trade Representative (USTR) [..] shall prepare and submit to the President an Omnibus Report on Significant Trade Deficits (Report)
Presidential Executive Order Regarding the Omnibus Report on Significant Trade Deficits

How about Buy American and Hire Americans?
The Secretary of Commerce, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the United States Trade Representative, shall submit to the President a report on Buy American that includes findings from subsections (b), (d), and (e) of this section. This report shall be submitted within 220 days of the date of this order and shall include specific recommendations to strengthen implementation of Buy American Laws
Presidential Executive Order on Buy American and Hire American

How about Promoting Agriculture and Rural Prosperity?
It will create a task force. Within 180 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Agriculture, in coordination with the other members of the Task Force, shall submit a report to the President, through the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, recommending the legislative, regulatory, or policy changes identified pursuant to section 4 of this order that the Task Force considers appropriate.
Presidential Executive Order on Promoting Agriculture and Rural Prosperity in America

Implementing an America-first offshore energy strategy (Yep, another study.)
Within 180 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Commerce, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Interior, shall report the results of the review under this subsection to the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, the Chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, and the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy.
Presidential Executive Order Implementing an America-First Offshore Energy Strategy

 

[InTheLight]

Yes, this is the mantra, but it's apparently been debunked. Newt was saying they didn't read the fine print, and funds are available for all kinds of things for the wall. We've got wall funding in a bill that was supposed to just be a compromise.

"All kinds of things for the wall". Just not bricks for new sections of the wall.

No funding was included for Trump’s proposed wall on the Southern border or a so-called deportation force, but the package would provide another $1.5 billion for border security efforts including new technology and repairing existing infrastructure.
Omnibus Agreement Details $1 Trillion in FY 2017 Spending

BTW, are you pro-Wall?

Yep, I'm pro-Wall so long as it doesn't get ridiculously expensive.

 

[Calminian]

"All kinds of things for the wall". Just not bricks for new sections of the wall.

No funding was included for Trump’s proposed wall on the Southern border.....

Actually this apparently is not true either. There are limitations some some materials, but not on others. According to Newt, who's more knowledgeable than both of us, Dems got snookered.

 

[InTheLight]

Actually this apparently is not true either. There are limitations some some materials, but not on others. According to Newt, who's more knowledgeable than both of us, Dems got snookered.

I'm thinking my ability to read is just as good, if not better, than Newt's.

 

[Calminian]

I'm thinking my ability to read is just as good, if not better, than Newt's.

Yeah, I'm with Newt on this one.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I'm thinking my ability to read is just as good, if not better, than Newt's.

What are you going to believe? Your lying eyes and your corrupt mind, or a career politician?

 

[Calminian]

What are you going to believe? Your lying eyes and your corrupt mind, or a career politician?

On this one I'm with Trump. He's none of the above.