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blessedwife318

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Calminian said:
Trump is more pro life than you. He is wiling to end the democrat obstructionism to end abortion funding. You are willing to keep abortion funding. That's a huge difference between you two. That's why I support Trump.

The argument you make is phony. Trump is doing what he can in a corrupt system. Had he pushed for it now it would not have happened. He's gearing up for a fight int he Fall—he'll be fighting the democrats and you to save the unborn. This will be the 2nd time in the span of a year you turned your back on the unborn using political excuses.
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Sorry his action show himself. He is the one turning his back on unborn babies. If he won't fight now there is no reason to think he will in 5 months. You have turned your back on the unborn by supporting a man who will fund their destruction. All your excuses will not change that fact. You voted for a man who think that Planned Parenthood does wonderful things and will fund their endeavors. I voted pro life and I'm fighting for them to defund through all available means including a government shut down or reconciliation. If I was an unborn baby you would scare me with your willingness to sacrifice me for the next 5 months on the hope that a man "characterized by unscrupulous" actions will do something moral and good which is antithetical to the very description you praise him for.
You own that vote, you own this bill. 5 months of babies being killed is on you.



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InTheLight said:
Yes, I'm denying that.
I'm also denying your statement, "I remember you predicting Trump would never appoint someone like Gorsuch."


IIRC, I said something like "we don't know for sure if Trump would appoint conservative justices". That's a far cry from "he'll never appoint conservative judges."
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No, it's not a far cry, in fact it's the same thing. That's how you justified not voting for him.

Now you predicting he won't try to defund PP. It's just another empty prediction.
 
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blessedwife318 said:
Sorry his action show himself. He is the one turning his back on unborn babies. If he won't fight now there is no reason to think he will in 5 months. You have turned your back on the unborn by supporting a man who will fund their destruction. All your excuses will not change that fact. You voted for a man who think that Planned Parenthood does wonderful things and will fund their endeavors. I voted pro life and I'm fighting for them to defund through all available means including a government shut down or reconciliation. If I was an unborn baby you would scare me with your willingness to sacrifice me for the next 5 months on the hope that a man "characterized by unscrupulous" actions will do something moral and good which is antithetical to the very description you praise him for.
You own that vote, you own this bill. 5 months of babies being killed is on you.



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I'll just sum up this way: If I'm the unborn I want Trump in charge, not you guys. You find every excuse in the book not to support life.

I only hope Trump can overcome your opposition to the pro life movement.
 
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blessedwife318 said:
...If he won't fight now there is no reason to think he will in 5 months....
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And if you turned your back on the unborn in November, there's not reason to believe you won't do the same in September.

wonder who's prediction is going to be more accurate? we'll find out.
 
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Calminian said:
Now you predicting he won't try to defend PP.
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Bold Mine

Oh we know he will defend Planned Parenthood. He did that multiple times on the campaign trail, everytime he talked about the wonderful things they did for millions of women.

He has shown an unwillingness to defund Planned Parenthood by not vetoing this horrible budget of making sure the republicans set up reconciliation. (assuming he knows what that is.)
 
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Calminian said:
And if you turned your back on the unborn in November, there's not reason to believe you won't do the same in September.

wonder who's prediction is going to be more accurate? we'll find out.
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And I can do what in September on a national level? There is no national election to vote in during September.

In November I will not be voting for the incumbent from my district since they voted for this horrible bill.
Neither one of my Senators Rinos that they are, are up for reelection this year. McCain was up in 2016 and no I didn't vote for him, Flake will not be up until 2020, and no I won't vote for him either.

So When I vote for Pro Life Candidates in November my prediction is that you will still claim that I turned my back on the unborn to cover for Trump and his funding of planned Parenthood and your vote for him last November.

By your same logic, Trump who turned his back on the unborn in May, there is no reason to believe he won't do the same thing in September. And he can actually do something on the national level unlike this "insignificant" (Thanks again Benjamin) housewife from Podunk Arizona.
 
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And I can do what in September on a national level? There is no national election to vote in during September......
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You can actually do more in September and the months leading up. You can publicly pledge support for Republicans to end Democrat obstructionism and do away with the 60 votes. You can do the opposite of what you do on these boards everyday in your attempt to undermine the pro life movement.
 
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Calminian said:
You can do the opposite of what you do on these boards everyday in your attempt to undermine the pro life movement.
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So in your mind calling out Planned Parenthood for being baby killers undermines the pro-life movement. Voting for Pro-life candidates up and down the ballot underminds the pro life movement.

I think your idea of pro life and mine are very different given how you defend Trump's funding of baby killing planned parenthood and have objected to me calling PP out on their baby killing on multiple occasions. So go ahead and keep voting for people that defend and fund baby killing planned parenthood. But that will never be pro life in my book.

I'm going to keep voting prolife calling out the evils of planned parenthood and spreading the gospel to a lost and dying world. And if that makes me smug to you than so be it.
 
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Calminian said:
So in your mind Trump demanding PP stop killing babies means he's not pro-life?

I'm merely using your own logic against you.
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When he says they do wonderful thing he undermines his and your claim. To go back to YOUR holocaust analogy it would be like someone saying Nazi Germany does wonderful things except for the holocaust but other than that they have helped millions of people. Nazi Germany is defined by the holocaust and anyone would be rightly appalled at someone saying they did wonderful things and helped millions of people. Yet this is exactly what Trump did when he praised Planned Parenthood which is defined by their abortion. Their baby killing holocaust cannot be separated from them any more than the holocaust can be separated from Nazi Germany.
Planned Parenthood is the number 1 abortion provider in the United States
In 2013 the most recent year I could find hard numbers for Abortion made up 94% of their pregnancy services.
Anyone who says a company, that kills approximately 300,000 babies a year is, does "wonderful things" is not pro life by any stretch of the imagination regardless of the exceptions they try to place on that. Just as there is no defending Nazi Germany (going back to YOUR analogy) there is no defending baby killing planned parenthood.
 
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No, it's not a far cry, in fact it's the same thing. That's how you justified not voting for him.

Now you predicting he won't try to defund PP. It's just another empty prediction.
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I'm not predicting it. HE JUST FAILED TO ATTEMPT TO DEFUND IT!! Just a couple of days ago.
 
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Calminian said:
I'll just sum up this way: If I'm the unborn I want Trump in charge, not you guys. You find every excuse in the book not to support life.

I only hope Trump can overcome your opposition to the pro life movement.
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More lies. This is why I had you on IGNORE.
 
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