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blessedwife318

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When he says what is a wonderful thing? Do you believe hospitals do wonderful things?
Do try to keep up, although it would help if you would not cut out so much of what I'm saying. What is the conversation about? Planned Parenthood
Who is the conversation about? Trump.
Trump has said on multiple occasions that Planned Parenthood does wonderful things. However its hard to know what wonderful things he is referring to since what he mentions are not things PP actually does. Given that 93% of pregnancy end in abortion under PP "care" (and you wonder and object to me calling them baby killing planned parent) and over 80% of their income comes from killing babies there is not a lot of room for the "wonderful things."
And like I pointed out that you have conveniently ignored people would be rightly appalled at someone saying that Nazi Germany did some "wonderful things" And as you pointed out abortion is a holocaust so I figured I would continue on with YOUR analogy.

I'm not sure why you are bringing up hospitals except as a Red Herring. Do you know of a hospitals where 93% of pregnant women end up killing their babies and makes over 80% of their income from said murder of babies.
 

blessedwife318

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In your world BlessedWife318 and me saying we're pro-life and to demand that the GOP defund PP so they will stop killing babies makes us pro-abortion.



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Well when words mean different things you can make someone anything you want. I mean he told me I was hateful for agreeing with him that Trump was "characterized by unscrupulous" behaviors aka manipulative.
So I'm working on a dictionary here
Agreeing = hate
manipulative = honest

wanting to defund baby killing Planned Parenthood now = Not pro life
small government run according to the Constitution = liberal
Moral standard = Trump

Silly me on that last one thinking that Christ is the moral standard that we all fall way short of.
 

Calminian

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Here's a challenge for both of you. Repeat the following.

"Hospitals do amazing things."

"I support defunding Planned Parenthood, even if it means exploding the 60 vote Senate rule."

I look forward to being pleasantly surprised.
 

blessedwife318

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Here's a challenge for both of you. Repeat the following.

"Hospitals do amazing things."

"I support defunding Planned Parenthood, even if it means exploding the 60 vote Senate rule."

I look forward to being pleasantly surprised.
The challenge for you is to point to anyone here who is arguing that hospitals don't do amazing things.
I'm not going to hold my breath for you to find that person however since this is your Red Herring to try to get people to forget that Trump said baby killing planned parenthood does wonderful things and has helped millions of women and is going to fund them for the next 5 months.


Oh and here you go: Hospitals do amazing things.
Planned parenthood is not a hospital and they kill babies.

Hospital do amazing things.
Planned Parenthood is not a hospital and they kill babies.


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InTheLight

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Yes, but hospitals perform abortions. Thus, by your logic, you support baby-killing hospitals. Wow!
But the clinics also truly came to stand alone. In 1973, hospitals made up 80 percent of the country’s abortion facilities. By 1981, however, clinics outnumbered hospitals, and 15 years later, 90 percent of the abortions in the U.S. were performed at clinics. The American Medical Association did not maintain standards of care for the procedure. Hospitals didn’t shelter them in their wings. Being a pro-choice doctor came to mean referring your patients to a clinic rather than doing abortions in your own office.

This was never the feminist plan. “The clinics’ founders didn’t intend them to become virtually the only settings for abortion services in many communities,”

The New Abortion Providers

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blessedwife318

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Yes, but hospitals perform abortions. Thus, by your logic, you support baby-killing hospitals. Wow!
Really what hospital kills the babies of 93%: of pre born babies that enter their doors. What hospital is synonymous with baby killing.
your use of planned parenthood talking points has not gone unnoticed.
You are now the second person that has ended up defending baby killing planned parenthood rather than say Trump was wrong in his praise when pressed. That is the cost of your vote, you will now defend them with their talking points rather then admit they kill babies and that is what they are known for.

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Calminian

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Let the record show you guys support baby-killing hospitals. (don't blame me its your own logic)
 

blessedwife318

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But the clinics also truly came to stand alone. In 1973, hospitals made up 80 percent of the country’s abortion facilities. By 1981, however, clinics outnumbered hospitals, and 15 years later, 90 percent of the abortions in the U.S. were performed at clinics. The American Medical Association did not maintain standards of care for the procedure. Hospitals didn’t shelter them in their wings. Being a pro-choice doctor came to mean referring your patients to a clinic rather than doing abortions in your own office.

This was never the feminist plan. “The clinics’ founders didn’t intend them to become virtually the only settings for abortion services in many communities,”

The New Abortion Providers

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He is just repeating planned parenthood talking points by trying to equate planned parenthood clinics with hospitals to deflect from Trump and his praise of planned parenthood.

The fact that Planned Parenthood is actively trying to avoid laws that they meet hosptial surgical codes, and have hospital admittance privilege shows the lie that baby killing planned parenthood is the same as a hospital.

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Rolfe

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Yes, but hospitals perform abortions. Thus, by your logic, you support baby-killing hospitals. Wow!

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Calminian

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And you have now resorted to an all out lie about ITL and myself.

We have both said time and time again that we are Pro Life and only vote for Pro Life candidates.

I agree. And Trump is pro life, even more staunchly than you two are. He's willing to abolish the 60 vote threshold for the unborn, you are not.

But by your own logic, you are supporting baby-killing hospitals. That's not my opinion, that is yours. By your own logic, even if Trump try is trying to get PP to stop abortions, he is still supporting baby-killing.

Sorry, guys you've dug your own logical hole with your own logic.
 

blessedwife318

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I agree. And Trump is pro life, even more staunchly than you two are. He's willing to abolish the 60 vote threshold for the unborn, you are not.

But by your own logic, you are supporting baby-killing hospitals. That's not my opinion, that is yours. By your own logic, even if Trump try is trying to get PP to stop abortions, he is still supporting baby-killing.

Sorry, guys you've dug your own logical hole with your own logic.
Straw man
Red Herring
You have dug yourself quite the logical fallacy hole there be refusing to hold the man you voted for accountable for his actions. Own it. He praised the wonderful things planned parenthood does dispite your denial of that fact. You denie it because it's clear you realize what it means for his stance.

Own it he is funding them for the next 5 months instead of vetoing the bill.

Your lies are there for all to see and you continue to prove me right about most Trump supporterd as you now are defending planned parenthood with their own talking points instead of calling them out for killing babies.

What is most amusing is you act like I'm more powerful than Trump. For someone that your billed as a fighter (who so far has surrendered every fight) it's funny that you think an insignificant (thanks again Benjamin) housewife can stop him from his plans. So my guess is you now realize he is not the fighter he billed himself and now seek to lay the blame on anyone that was shrewd enough to see through his manipulative (Your word not mine) actions and is now innocent of said manipulative(again your word not mine) actions.





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