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Trump Has Spent 25 Percent of Days at Trump Golf Clubs

FollowTheWay

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How is Trump making money fraudulently? He already has more money than he knows what to do with. Now Obama and Clinton they have leveraged their presidencies into big money. Dosen't that bother you? We should not give Clinton or Obama or the Bush's one thin dime of taxpayer money for any reason. No office money, no paycheck, no security money - those guys can afford to take care of all that themselves.
Actually, I don't think Trump has nearly as much money as most people think. He has a lot of debt which in the past he's dealt with by declaring 6 bankruptcies and stiffing the contractors he owed money to. Have Bill Gates or Warren Buffet ever declared bankruptcy? That isn't exactly the sign of a successful businessman. He could clear this up by releasing his tax returns as every other modern-day candidate or elected president has done except Nixon. Interesting "coincidence." Trump also refused to divest his businesses or put them in a blind trust as other president's have done. He doubled the initiation fee at his resorts when he was elected and holds meetings with foreign dignitaries there. So you want to take away security from former presidents? That shows your utter disrespect for the office.
 

HankD

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Actually, I don't think Trump has nearly as much money as most people think. He has a lot of debt which in the past he's dealt with by declaring 6 bankruptcies and stiffing the contractors he owed money to. Have Bill Gates or Warren Buffet ever declared bankruptcy? That isn't exactly the sign of a successful businessman. He could clear this up by releasing his tax returns as every other modern-day candidate or elected president has done except Nixon. Interesting "coincidence." Trump also refused to divest his businesses or put them in a blind trust as other president's have done. He doubled the initiation fee at his resorts when he was elected and holds meetings with foreign dignitaries there. So you want to take away security from former presidents? That shows your utter disrespect for the office.

Again, he just doesn't fit the mold of "every other modern-day candidate or elected president".

People will just have to live with it.

Or, vote him out next time around.
 

FollowTheWay

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Great, look at all he gets done!
Which is exactly what?
  1. Creating a non-nuclear pact with N. Korea as he has boasted? NO
  2. Placing stricter controls on Iran to replace the ones he removed? NO
  3. Changing the tax laws to benefit the corporations and rich? No that was Paul Ryan.
  4. Creating more new jobs? No, they're going down since Obama.
  5. Helping the coal miners? No. There are no new mining jobs for them and they're in danger of losing their medical insurance.
  6. Repealing and replacing Obamacare with something much better as he promised? NO
  7. Strengthening our relationship with our allies? No. he's done the opposite.
  8. Providing more safeguards against Russian hacking of our elections? NO
  9. Improved trade by slapping on large tariffs? NO. These will make U.S. trade go DOWN.and is already hurting our farmers.
  10. Responded in even a merely adequate way to the devastation in Puerto Rico, an American possession? NO
These are right off the top of my head. There are many other ways in which Trump has failed.
 

FollowTheWay

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Again, he just doesn't fit the mold of "every other modern-day candidate or elected president".

People will just have to live with it.

Or, vote him out next time around.
That's true. he's incompetent and irresponsible.
 

HankD

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Which is exactly what?
  1. Creating a non-nuclear pact with N. Korea as he has boasted? NO
  2. Placing stricter controls on Iran to replace the ones he removed? NO
  3. Changing the tax laws to benefit the corporations and rich? No that was Paul Ryan.
  4. Creating more new jobs? No, they're going down since Obama.
  5. Helping the coal miners? No. There are no new mining jobs for them and they're in danger of losing their medical insurance.
  6. Repealing and replacing Obamacare with something much better as he promised? NO
  7. Strengthening our relationship with our allies? No. he's done the opposite.
  8. Providing more safeguards against Russian hacking of our elections? NO
  9. Improved trade by slapping on large tariffs? NO. These will make U.S. trade go DOWN.and is already hurting our farmers.
  10. Responded in even a merely adequate way to the devastation in Puerto Rico, an American possession? NO
These are right off the top of my head. There are many other ways in which Trump has failed.

I guess that will be decided by the American people in November of 2018 and 2020.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Earth Wind and Fire

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Actually, I don't think Trump has nearly as much money as most people think. He has a lot of debt which in the past he's dealt with by declaring 6 bankruptcies and stiffing the contractors he owed money to. Have Bill Gates or Warren Buffet ever declared bankruptcy? That isn't exactly the sign of a successful businessman. He could clear this up by releasing his tax returns as every other modern-day candidate or elected president has done except Nixon. Interesting "coincidence." Trump also refused to divest his businesses or put them in a blind trust as other president's have done. He doubled the initiation fee at his resorts when he was elected and holds meetings with foreign dignitaries there. So you want to take away security from former presidents? That shows your utter disrespect for the office.

Maybe you should vote for Elizabeth Warren...for starters she is looking at forcing all presidential candidates to show their tax returns and wants to strictly enforce emoluments clause's
 

Salty

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Yes, their poverty stricken and thuggery currupt countries where their children have no opportunity to grow. I understand, the world of the haves and the have nots.
EWF - so you would have no problem with this situation

Mom divorces Dad -Mom gets a lot of child support -but spends most of the money on herself, kids are in great need. Dad has went back to court - but to no avail -

So dad gets the kids on his weekend and takes the kids to Canada - to start a new life
 

HankD

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So which media do you dislike & which one do you like? The false ones obviously are the ones that are derogitory while the "good ones" pay tribute to Trump. Boy, you are hard to figure out

I don't see a friggen thing this guy has done that benefits me or my state. In fact, he works to punish states like New Jersey & New York, not to mention Puerto Rico.
As far as I am concerned he has accomplished the thing that fulfills his greatest promise

Neil Gorsuch with Brett Kavanaugh coming up soon.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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As far as I am concerned he has accomplished the thing that fulfills his greatest promise

Neil Gorsuch with Brett Kavanaugh coming up soon.

Don't be so hasty.....Kavaneaugh isn't there & he has mounting detractors. In the mean time, New Jersey now has the fat baby Trump balloon in our possessions.
 

Salty

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Actually, I don't think Trump has nearly as much money as most people think. He has a lot of debt which in the past he's dealt with by declaring 6 bankruptcies
He did not personally declare bankruptcies - his business did. Oh, by the way - were they Chapter 7 or chapter 11 bankruptcies?


and stiffing the contractors he owed money to. Have Bill Gates or Warren Buffet ever declared bankruptcy? That isn't exactly the sign of a successful businessman. .
So what did Buffet do to be a successful businessman?




or put them in a blind trust as other president's have done.

If you remember Carter did put his business into a blind trust - and how did that turn out?

So you want to take away security from former presidents? That shows your utter disrespect for the office.
Please inform us of one living former President who is having financial problems.
Their retirement pay is about 190 grand a year. (I dont think Carter gets one since he worked less than 5 years for the Federal Govt)
and even Carter lives a comfortable life.

and by the way... Yep, Buffett's employees just love him:
 
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