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Trump is God's Punishment Upon America?

Rippon

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He wants to take away health insurance from millions of needy people.
False accusation.
He wants to cut Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security.
False accusation.
Racism is at the highest level I've seen since the 1950's and Trump supports that.
Patently false accusation.

His head of the Dept. of Justice is a well-known racist.
Absolutely false accusation.
He consorted with a foreign enemy (Russia) to change the outcome of the election.
Nonsense allegation.
He is against freedom of the press.
That's a stupid charge. He's against the fake MSM whose relentless goal is to take him out of office by any means necessary --including full-scale lying which you also employ.
I could go on and on.
...with your shameful lies.
Either you see this _____ for what he really is, a charlatan and a wanna-be dictator or you don't.
You are one sick puppy.
Frankly, I'm, getting tired of pointing out the obvious.
I am sincerely tired of the mendacity constantly coming from your keystrokes.[/quote]
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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He wants to take away health insurance from millions of needy people. He wants to cut Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. He wants to increase our already bloated defence budget by $50B. We already spend as much as the next 8 top countries combined. he want to cut taxes on the rich who are already not paying their fair share. The highest tax rate was much higher in America previously especially when we had to pay for wars (e.g. WWII and Viet Nam). We fought two long wars "off-budget) and now need to pay for them. Instead their cost was taken out of the Social Security fund and then added to the national debt. Inequality of wealth is really the major concern that is driving a lot of the unrest in America. His program which includes cutting inheritance taxes and not keeping the minimum wage up to date will increase that inequality.

Racism is at the highest level I've seen since the 1950's and Trump supports that. His head of the Dept. of Justice is a well-known racist. He is acting to destroy our public education. He appointed a head of the Dept. of Education who has no public school experience and who supports the failed concepts of charter schools and vouchers. He consorted with a foreign enemy (Russia) to change the outcome of the election. His supporters include Neo-Nazi's and the KKK. None of his cabinet members have the qualifications to perform their duties.

He professes to be a Christian but exhibits none of the characteristics of one. He used his "faith" simply to get the vote of evangelical Christians. He lies continually. He is against freedom of the press. I could go on and on. Either you see this mjkan for what he really is, a charlatan and a wanna-be dictator or you don't. Frankly, I'm, getting tired of pointing out the obvious.

Thank you though for taking the trouble to point out what is the obvious. :Thumbsup
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Follow The Way. I hope you will agree with me that God can change the hearts & minds of anyone when he wants to. Enough prayer can do the job...even with Trump.
 

Adonia

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He wants to take away health insurance from millions of needy people. He wants to cut Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. He wants to increase our already bloated defence budget by $50B. We already spend as much as the next 8 top countries combined. he want to cut taxes on the rich who are already not paying their fair share. The highest tax rate was much higher in America previously especially when we had to pay for wars (e.g. WWII and Viet Nam). We fought two long wars "off-budget) and now need to pay for them. Instead their cost was taken out of the Social Security fund and then added to the national debt. Inequality of wealth is really the major concern that is driving a lot of the unrest in America. His program which includes cutting inheritance taxes and not keeping the minimum wage up to date will increase that inequality.

Racism is at the highest level I've seen since the 1950's and Trump supports that. His head of the Dept. of Justice is a well-known racist. He is acting to destroy our public education. He appointed a head of the Dept. of Education who has no public school experience and who supports the failed concepts of charter schools and vouchers. He consorted with a foreign enemy (Russia) to change the outcome of the election. His supporters include Neo-Nazi's and the KKK. None of his cabinet members have the qualifications to perform their duties.

He professes to be a Christian but exhibits none of the characteristics of one. He used his "faith" simply to get the vote of evangelical Christians. He lies continually. He is against freedom of the press. I could go on and on. Either you see this mjkan for what he really is, a charlatan and a wanna-be dictator or you don't. Frankly, I'm, getting tired of pointing out the obvious.

Nice try, but when all you have is lies that proves nothing. I'll just take one of your claims and elaborate on it. There is absolutely no evidence of President Trump consorting with the Russians. As for being friends with our enemies the Russians, that would have been Obama and his Sec. of State Hillary Clinton who gave the go ahead on a deal that gave a Russian company over 20% ownership of North American uranium deposits. Her husband subsequently got a 500K speaking fee from the Russian banks that set up the deal and then those same banks gave a couple of million dollars to the Clinton Global Initiative. Now that's dealing with the Russians!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Nice try, but when all you have is lies that proves nothing. I'll just take one of your claims and elaborate on it. There is absolutely no evidence of President Trump consorting with the Russians. As for being friends with our enemies the Russians, that would have been Obama and his Sec. of State Hillary Clinton who gave the go ahead on a deal that gave a Russian company over 20% ownership of North American uranium deposits. Her husband subsequently got a 500K speaking fee from the Russian banks that set up the deal and then those same banks gave a couple of million dollars to the Clinton Global Initiative. Now that's dealing with the Russians!

How about if he had business dealings with Iranians, would that serve to change your opinion about Trump?
 

Crabtownboy

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Nice try, but when all you have is lies that proves nothing. I'll just take one of your claims and elaborate on it. There is absolutely no evidence of President Trump consorting with the Russians. As for being friends with our enemies the Russians, that would have been Obama and his Sec. of State Hillary Clinton who gave the go ahead on a deal that gave a Russian company over 20% ownership of North American uranium deposits. Her husband subsequently got a 500K speaking fee from the Russian banks that set up the deal and then those same banks gave a couple of million dollars to the Clinton Global Initiative. Now that's dealing with the Russians!


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Michael Cohen is one of Donald Trump's lawyers and, according to everyone, a world-class doofus.

Earlier this week, the Washington Post and the New York Times published bombshell reports that together outlined a seemingly coordinated effort by Donald Trump's campaign to collude and collaborate with Russia. No, not that time with Donald Trump Jr. And no, not that time that Jeff Sessions met with the ambassador at the Republican National Convention. And no, not that time Jared Kushner tried to set up a back channel to communicate with Russia without American intelligence from being able to hear. No, this is a whole other attempt at collusion involving a Russian-born Trump associate, Felix Sater and Michael "I have black friends" Cohen. If this story is true, these guys not only tried to collude with Russia, but they desperately tried to collude with Russia. These guys were so thirsty that I can only imagine that Russia turned to China to be like, "This is embarrassing right?"

So the story goes that Sater was pushing for Trump to begin the process of building a Trump Tower in Moscow ahead of the election to curry favor with Putin and show the American people what a good negotiator he is. Here's a sample of Sater selling this idea to Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.

“Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

And lest Cohen try to pretend like he was never receptive to the idea, now, according to the Associated Press, the Kremlin is confirming that Michael Cohen emailed them on behalf of this very plan.

President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters in Moscow on Wednesday that they received Cohen’s email, which was sent to the press office’s general email address. Peskov said it was one of many emails the Kremlin press office gets — since its email address is available online — and that the Kremlin did not reply to it.

Russia Has Confirmed That Donald Trump's Lawyer Tried to Make a Deal with Them During the Election
 

FollowTheWay

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False accusation.

False accusation.

Patently false accusation.


Absolutely false accusation.

Nonsense allegation.

That's a stupid charge. He's against the fake MSM whose relentless goal is to take him out of office by any means necessary --including full-scale lying which you also employ.

...with your shameful lies.

You are one sick puppy.

I am sincerely tired of the mendacity constantly coming from your keystrokes.
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Pray to God that you can get out of the clutches of this man sent by the Devil.
 

FollowTheWay

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I'd say so. He is a blessing sent to us from God.

I'm fully aware of his weaknesses --but over all President Trump is a much needed blessing for our nation.

[Mat 4:8 KJV] Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

[Mat 4:9 KJV] And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

[Mat 4:10 KJV] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jesus rejected the temptation of the devil. So-called evangelical Christians did not. They signed on the dotted line.
 

FollowTheWay

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Nice try, but when all you have is lies that proves nothing. I'll just take one of your claims and elaborate on it. There is absolutely no evidence of President Trump consorting with the Russians. As for being friends with our enemies the Russians, that would have been Obama and his Sec. of State Hillary Clinton who gave the go ahead on a deal that gave a Russian company over 20% ownership of North American uranium deposits. Her husband subsequently got a 500K speaking fee from the Russian banks that set up the deal and then those same banks gave a couple of million dollars to the Clinton Global Initiative. Now that's dealing with the Russians!
Analysis | 7 times Trump tried to call off the dogs on Russia

Trump's attempts to influence actions related to Russia and the investigation that is now focused on him personally constitute a growing volume. Last weekend, in fact, the New York Times reported on another example that some may have missed.

Below, we recap all of them.

1) Trying to get Tillis to back off

2) Venting to Corker about sanctions bill

3) Complaining to McConnell about not getting protection

4) Asking Comey for loyalty

5) Suggesting Comey be lenient on Michael Flynn

6) Asking Comey to say Trump wasn't under investigation

7) Asking Coats and Rogers to deny evidence of collusion

For someone who claims there is nothing to this investigation, Trump's certainly trying hard to block it.
 

Rippon

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[Mat 4:8 KJV] Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

[Mat 4:9 KJV] And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

[Mat 4:10 KJV] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Jesus rejected the temptation of the devil. So-called evangelical Christians did not. They signed on the dotted line.
The verses you quoted do not back up the lies you have said about our President. As a matter of fact, lies can't support anything but a Satanic agenda.
 
He wants to take away health insurance from millions of needy people.

He simply thinks people shouldn't have buy health insurance if they don't want it. Medical care is not a constitutionally guaranteed right.

He wants to cut Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security.

He wants to eliminate unmarried, childless alcoholics and drug addicts from receiving any further Medicaid until they undergo treatment for chemical addiction. He wants to cut Medicare and Social Security fraud.

He wants to increase our already bloated defence budget by $50B. We already spend as much as the next 8 top countries combined.

Yes, but we do more than the next 8 countries combined. We keep the world safe. And we have more enemies than any other nation, because we stand for liberty and justice for all.

he want to cut taxes on the rich who are already not paying their fair share.

Justice is when each man knows the fruits of his labor are his own, regardless of his income. The job of government is to protect each individual's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, against violation by others. But you can't violate the rights of one group to preserve the rights of another group.

Inequality of wealth is really the major concern that is driving a lot of the unrest in America.

Inequality of wealth does not drive unrest. Evaluating ones own intrinsic worth based on income drives unrest. But the dignity of the human person is not based on income. It's based on each person's uniqueness, and his priceless value in the eyes of God. The job of government is NOT to establish economic equality, it's to establish a system in which everyone is paid according to the market value of the labor he performs.

I couldn’t care less about how much money super-wealthy people have. I’m only concerned about how much money I have! If I have less than the amount I want, I do something about it. I don’t complain

A good government—by non-interference—allows the best person for each job to occupy that position. Could anything be more fair than to let God give to each person what He intends?

Racism is at the highest level I've seen since the 1950's and Trump supports that.

Racism is racial hatred for no other reason than that another person is of a certain racial heritage. Opposition to illegal immigration is not racism. It's promoting law and order.

Supporting police officers is not racism. Police kill when they are threatened, regardless of the the race of the person who threatens them. Blacks have more problems with police, because they commit more crime as a percentage of their population. If ethnic minorities accepted accountability for their actions, instead of blaming others, it would make a big difference.

But you supply them with no end of excuses to keep them down. I, on the other hand, have reasonable expectations that each person is responsible for his own destiny. I was on Social Security for a few years. I made a deal with the government: they could keep some of my income. In the event I was disabled, the government would then cover my medical care and give me a small, monthly stipend.

I lost my vision in one eye. I can’t drive as a result. I had no cell phone. Part of my foot had to be amputated, because of a bone infection. I can’t walk far as a result. I have liver cirrhosis due to viral damage from an illness I contracted while giving first aid to an ex-drug-addict on a construction site.

I am a high-school dropout from a broken home with an atheist father. I suffered merciless criticism growing up. But I had faith in God. So, when I couldn’t do construction work anymore, I held God to His promise in Jeremiah 29.

I didn’t sit on my butt and complain! I bought a cane so I could walk to the library, where I could study electrical engineering online. I went on to invent a novel electronic device that I now sell in 45 countries.

I was never bitter about my handicaps, because America is the greatest nation in the world. I had a second chance, because anyone can do anything in America! When others my age were out out drinking, drugging and fornicating, I was in my cheap apartment doing research and development for my new product.

It took me three years. And I was able to do it because I stayed away from sin. Those who fail to succeed are bound by patterns of intentional sin. If they repent and live virtuously, they can succeed. Poverty is God’s way of teaching people how to behave.

His head of the Dept. of Justice is a well-known racist.

That would be the Attorney General, Jeff Sessions. Again, I think you’ve expanded the definition of “racist” to extend well beyond racial hatred.

He is acting to destroy our public education. He appointed a head of the Dept. of Education who has no public school experience and who supports the failed concepts of charter schools and vouchers.

The President appointed Betsy DeVos, simply because she hasn’t been messed-up by public-school experience. Public schools students presently lag behind even home-schooled children in standardized test results. Charter schools and school vouchers are what parents want for their children! Public schools lag behind every other form of school.

He consorted with a foreign enemy (Russia) to change the outcome of the election.

Could you cite rational and conclusive evidence to support that claim? I haven’t been able to find any.

His supporters include Neo-Nazi's and the KKK. None of his cabinet members have the qualifications to perform their duties.

Who his supporters are has no bearing on who the President is. He cannot control other people. He can only control himself. He has denounced those groups. Regarding his cabinet, could you cite rational, conclusive evidence to support that claim.

He professes to be a Christian but exhibits none of the characteristics of one. He used his "faith" simply to get the vote of evangelical Christians.

The President exhibits many characteristics of a Christian. He’s kind, compassionate and generous. He’s married. All of his children were conceive within the bonds of marriage.

He has received the economic blessings God gives to the righteous. He supports the police, the military, law and order, and The Nation Under God. God loves those things!

He lies continually.

Could you cite a rational example in which he intentionally misrepresented the truth in a significant way?

He is against freedom of the press.

I am not aware that the President has ever advocated for government control of the press. The President has a right to free speech. He can say what he wants about the press. That doesn’t mean he’s against freedom of the press.

I could go on and on. Either you see this mjkan for what he really is, a charlatan and a wanna-be dictator or you don't.

Unfortunately, you’re only pointing out your own malcontent. Perhaps if you got in touch with yourself you could be more honest about your beliefs.You write your posts like you're hurling grenades. I can only assume your prose are a cry for help.

I can feel the pain just reading it. Trump is not the reason. He’s a target to project your own feelings onto. The problem is inside you. It always is. Your OP shows signs that you believe you operate from a concealed position.

But I think everyone with heart can read into what you write. The injustice you suffered is aimed right back at those you blame. I could get angry at your words and just let you rot in your pointless and ineffectual vengeance.

But I see the unfairness of your words as evidence of the injustice you’ve suffered. I feel bad for you. But if you don’t forgive others, neither will God forgive you. If you knew the injustice I have suffered, you would think it’s impossible I survived. I know the suffering of injustice up close and personal.

But I don’t cling to resentment. I held people accountable for what they did to me, and I forgave them, whether they wanted forgiveness or not! I gave it to them anyway. I hope you can do the same.

Ask yourself, “What do I want from life?” Then ask, “Am I able and willing to do what it takes to get it?” The President is not your enemy. You are!
 
As regards the President and Russian collusion to sway the 2016 US election. If the Russians were simply revealing the truth, then they were doing a public service for the AMERICANS. The more truth the public is aware of, the better voting decisions it can make.

If the President was involved with the revelation of truth to the American people, he's a patriot. Jesus said, "Truth will set you free!"
 

TCassidy

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Then you will never see his evil.
Post your evidence. Videos of the President making racist remarks, or claiming white supremacy, or ignoring the poor and ill and helping the rich become richer. If you have no video a voice recording will suffice. If you have none then a confirmed statement in print (not what some lefty reporter said, but something he actually said).

The ball is in your court. Put up or shut up.
 
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