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Trump vs #Covid19

church mouse guy

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I’m done with you. I don’t know why the mods let you rampage around doing this but it’s off topic and annoying.

I don’t care about Cuba in a thread about Covid. Understand now? You know what off topic means?

You are the one who brought up Cuba, not me. Understand now?
 

Agent47

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I have had angry exchanges with an Australian man who lost his job due to the pandemic. He insists chloroquine is the cure and wonders why few countries are using it. I shared Dr. Fauci’s interviews and his position on the same. He could not buy it. Turns out he is a big Trump fan. He dismissed any evidence I shared as fired by left wing media and anti-Trumpers:Biggrin

Nothing but the truth in this article. Sample this:

Shana Kushner Gadarian, Sara Wallace Goodman, and Thomas Pepinsky — political scientists at Syracuse University, UC Irvine, and Cornell respectively — have just released the results of a survey of 3,000 Americans on a wide range of “health behaviors, attitudes, and opinions about how to respond to the crisis.” (The survey was done March 20-23, a week after the initial declaration of emergency.) Their survey design has allowed them to isolate the effects of different variables on attitudes and behaviors.

Here’s how they summarize the results:

Our results collectively describe a broad political divide in reaction to COVID-19: Republicans are less likely than Democrats to report responding with CDC-recommended behavior, and are less concerned about the pandemic, yet are more likely to support policies that restrict trade and movement across borders as a response to it. Democrats, by contrast, have responded by changing their personal health behaviors, and supporting policies that socialize the costs of testing and treatment. Partisanship is a more consistent predictor of behaviors, attitudes, and preferences than anything else that we measure. [emphasis added]

Partisanship shapes everything, even direct experience. “What we find is that even when you account for the zip codes people live in, i.e., their actual level of exposure to the disease,” Gadarian told me, “partisanship still matters.” Democrats are more likely than Republicans to wash their hands more often, avoid contact with others, and self-quarantine, more likely to support increased social spending, more likely to worry about getting themselves and others sick, and more convinced that normal life must be temporarily suspended.


But there is hope; the harder Covid-19 hits US the less effective will be partisanship in shielding Republicans from the reality of the pandemic.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...republicans-democrats-survey-epistemic-crisis
 

church mouse guy

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Nothing but the truth in this article. Sample this:

Shana Kushner Gadarian, Sara Wallace Goodman, and Thomas Pepinsky — political scientists at Syracuse University, UC Irvine, and Cornell respectively — have just released the results of a survey of 3,000 Americans on a wide range of “health behaviors, attitudes, and opinions about how to respond to the crisis.” (The survey was done March 20-23, a week after the initial declaration of emergency.) Their survey design has allowed them to isolate the effects of different variables on attitudes and behaviors.

Here’s how they summarize the results:

Our results collectively describe a broad political divide in reaction to COVID-19: Republicans are less likely than Democrats to report responding with CDC-recommended behavior, and are less concerned about the pandemic, yet are more likely to support policies that restrict trade and movement across borders as a response to it. Democrats, by contrast, have responded by changing their personal health behaviors, and supporting policies that socialize the costs of testing and treatment. Partisanship is a more consistent predictor of behaviors, attitudes, and preferences than anything else that we measure. [emphasis added]

Partisanship shapes everything, even direct experience. “What we find is that even when you account for the zip codes people live in, i.e., their actual level of exposure to the disease,” Gadarian told me, “partisanship still matters.” Democrats are more likely than Republicans to wash their hands more often, avoid contact with others, and self-quarantine, more likely to support increased social spending, more likely to worry about getting themselves and others sick, and more convinced that normal life must be temporarily suspended.




https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...republicans-democrats-survey-epistemic-crisis

You know, there is some truth in what you post. People who live in the big cities such as Indianapolis, which is controlled by the Democrats, are the one with the high rate of disease, and Indianapolis is a hot spot for the pandemic with a lot of cases and a lot of deaths.

And Democrats want government to take over and dictate to everyone how to act. But I disagree that Democrats are obeying the rules because the people were I work are not obeying the six-foot rule and some of the authoritarian supervisors are actually writing them up for that and trying to get them fired for sitting to close at lunch. Also, Los Angeles had to send police in the ghettos to break up a street party and the Democrats did not appreciate being told to go home and were very nasty about it--so nasty that I cannot link the video here because of bad language.

I would say that the hand-washing thing is non-political. About a third of Americans do not wash their hands after using the toilet and I doubt if any pandemic will change them. A lot of them don't brush their teeth either. Some people are just dirty no matter what their station in life, rich or poor.

I don't think that anyone wants to shake hands for the time being, do you?
 

church mouse guy

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no I don’t.

yours is anecdotal proof. The study shows republicans to lag behind but are catching up

What study? NYC is the # 1 spot. Big cities are worse to live in during a pandemic because of overcrowding and lack of private vehicles and forced reliance on subways and buses. Instead of private hopes with yards, people are bunched up together in buildings. In the cities it is more difficult to keep your 6-feet away from another person. I can't imagine that NYC will ever gain population again.
 

777

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Well, CMG, let me summarize Shana Kushner Gadarian, Sara Wallace Goodman, and Thomas Pepinsky's "conclusions": Republicans are selfish, xenophobic rubes, but Democrats (including them, of course) are incredibly well-informed and they CARE.

Garbage study, but you're right that people in urban areas are probably taking extra precautions, as they well should - pandemic is so bad in New Orleans, because the mayor sat around and let Mardi Gras go on and then she blamed Trump for not telling her to cancel it, lol. Then there was this:

Despite coronavirus fears, annual Chinatown Lunar New Year Parade to go on as planned

and DeBlasio was cheerleading for New Yorkers to ride the subways. Guess they weren't effective against shielding themselves against the reality of the panademic!
 
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