And if we send Mexico a bill for what we already paid for, American taxpayers will be stiffed and stuck with more debt.
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Trump Will Ask Congress for Money to Build the Wall
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And if we send Mexico a bill for what we already paid for, American taxpayers will be stiffed and stuck with more debt.
I'm 53 years old and I ever since I can remember the talking heads have said the sky is falling with this debt, that we just cannot survive unless we do something!!!! I think it was around 500 billion when I was 10. After 40 years of these folks saying we are doomed by the debt I have grown tired of the crying wolf. In 2008 the economist cried 12 Trillion was the end of our country! And now it is near 20 trillion and guess what? Everything goes on just the same.......we still here and well. If we can add 8 trillion in 8 years and still life goes on as usual then I have no time for listening anymore to the sky is falling.
If the sky isn't falling then why do we need a wall?
I don't know about the sky falling but that much debt or in fact any debt is a problem. I don't want to see it.
You would have just put a spin on it. From the beginning Trump said he was going to build a wall (1) and make Mexico pay for it (2) - I think most people, who were on the side of building the wall, understood the common sense that no one suggesting that Mexico was going to hand over the money before their options were limited by the wall being there.
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It was Trump being serious about getting the wall built that catapulted attention, - Mexico paying for it was quickly added in during the initial backlash for flavor as a double-down, that some wish to take this to literally mean Mexico was going to pay for the wall beforehand only goes to show that they must be blinded sheep by means of the liberal media to actually believe that was ever the idea and the jokes now on them by everyone who got the real meaning according to their their own common sense in the first place...
Tell your friend they're going to not only pay for it but the benefit of having it will pay for it many many times over in the future at Mexico's expense - or one might better say their loss of not being able to syphon our money any longer. As per the gate I wouldn't be surprised if it gets some gold-plating.
Oh really? Mexico was not going to hand over the money from Day One?
Here's a document from Donald J. Trump's website saying that:
"On Day 1 promulgate a proposed rule (regulation) amending 31 CFR130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like WesternUnion, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers."
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/immigration/
(click on the link Mexico Pays for the Wall, under point #1)
Meaning unless a person showed proof of US citizenship, the US would bar money transfers going to Mexico. This is from Day One. Estimated economic impact would be to stop $24 billion a year from going into Mexico.
But Trump also provided a way out for Mexico. On Day 3, if they made a one-time payment of $10 billion he would not invoke the new regulations on money transfers. This is what Mexico has said they would not pay.
But now Trump is saying that instead of extorting $10 billion from Mexico up front by threatening to make changes to existing regulations, he's going to ask Congress for the money.
What else ya got?
"Context" is your friend, SpinHopper.
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I see. So quoting from Trump's own website is not good enough. I guess he meant to say:
From Day One I will ask Congress to fund the wall. I will then go back to the Mexican government and look for a refund.
Actually, think that He will have Congress allocate funds for that, and indirectly charge Mexico for that, by new trade deals and tarrifs on their products!
Keep working on those intrumpretations, - you'll begin to get it in the long run as you see these things such as the wall actually take shape. - despite the rhetorical spin of the left and their friends.
"The rhetorical spin of the left"....Nice try. Calling names again when you have no rebuttal. Sad.
Here is the relevant portion of the document where Trump says from Day 1 he will make Mexico pay for the wall. This is a direct quote from Trump's website, not some spin. (Link is provided in post, above.)
You're simply unwittingly defeating your own argument with statements like: "Trump says from Day 1 he will make Mexico pay for the wall." which you try to spin into that it means receive a check for $10 Billion for on day 1. Very revealing. Sorry you can't even see where you go wrong with repeating this leftist rhetorical spin you're trying to put on Trump's words. That's why I told you "Context is your friend, SpinHopper." But I guess you just can't get past you're pessimism about Trump. I'm just glad that type of nonsense is getting weeded out from the leadership which is trying to get these things such as the wall done because that kind of negativity and spin would be business as usual and nothing would ever get done.
much ado about nothing
Sorry, but no. Trump said from Day 1 he would try to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Well, we are at Day -14 and he's already announced he's not going to try to get Mexico to pay for the wall, he's going to ask Congress. And no, I'm not spinning it into anything, I'm quoting the man's website verbatim.
This say one thing, and do another is what I'm objecting to. That is business as usual. I had hopes that Trump wouldn't be like that.
BTW, where is that info that he had on Russian hacking?
Where are the tax returns?
Where are the lawsuits against his women accusers?
Where is Melania's immigration papers?
etc.
etc.
Sure, a man can run a campaign and promise things, get elected and then go back on his word. We're talking about $10 billion to $15 billion here. I guess that is nothing to you.
