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Rye

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More on Ron DeSantis, his family values and his Catholism ( taken from an interview with EWTN)

One thing I always admired about DeSantis is how he conducts himself as a strong leader with unchanging moral values. Time will tell how things play out with Vance but I’m not sold on him just yet. It does bother me how much he changes his mind such as his original opinions of Trump in 2016, his conversion from Protestant to atheist to Catholic. I listened to his interview with Joe Rogan and he does use quite a bit of foul language and he admitted that he thinks it’s quite humorous when his young children use foul language too.
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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One thing I always admired about DeSantis is how he conducts himself as a strong leader with unchanging moral values. Time will tell how things play out with Vance but I’m not sold on him just yet. It does bother me how much he changes his mind such as his original opinions of Trump in 2016, his conversion from Protestant to atheist to Catholic. I listened to his interview with Joe Rogan and he does use quite a bit of foul language and he admitted that he thinks it’s quite humorous when his young children use foul language too.
My opinion of DeSantis is that he is a “True Conservative” as I am btw so I am naturally drawn to the guy. Plus his family values are commendable. As a nation, we could do worse, like sliding into rank Socialism ( Marxism) which we surely would have done with Kamala Harris/ Walls presidential platform.
 

JonC

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Just as God will judge every believer by what they built on that foundation ( salvation ) laid by Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 3:10 as any that sows to the flesh ( and heresy is one of them ) that defiles the temple of God, and remains defiled by the time the Bridegroom comes, that believer will be left behind to die per 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 although still saved 1 Corinthians 3:15.

Revelation 2:18-25 is a warning to that church to repent or else be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation and be judged by their works with death as those that did not resurrect at the great tribulation rapture event, will have to wait Revelation 6:9-11 along with believers left behind to be resurrected after the great tribulation Revelation 7:9-17 & Revelation 20:1-6

Since God commanded the church through Paul to excommunicate any unrepentant brother, for this purpose, in 1 Corinthians 5:4-5, you may see why those unrepentant saints & former believers are left behind. Indeed, 1 Corinthians 5:8-11 shows how the Lord will hold the Marriage Supper in heaven in the same way church fellowship & communion should be held down here.

So that is why we are not to judge anyone as not saved or not a true Christian, but as not abiding in Him & His words in correcting them to lead them to repentance so as to live that reconciled relationship with God the Father through Jesus Christ.
Yep. But we do "judge by their fruit". It isn't saying they are or are not saved.
 

Benjamin

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I think the point of "fruit inspection" is that whikecwe cannot judge ones salvation (we do not know if God is working in one's life, or to what extent, if a believer) we are taught to judge the "fruit" and act accordingly.

The man expelled from a congregation because of sin may, or may not, be saved. But that person is treated in accordance to his actions.
Yeah, I was going to tell Trump to clean it up a little more if he wants to save the country but I missed about a dozen calls from him just before the election.
 

kyredneck

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Yeah, I was going to tell Trump to clean it up a little more if he wants to save the country

Yea, kinda like Cassius Clay, aka Muhammad Ali, in his early days running his mouth to get people to take note of him. It works.
 

JonC

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Yeah, I was going to tell Trump to clean it up a little more if he wants to save the country but I missed about a dozen calls from him just before the election.
I made sure he had my cell phone. Told him to leave me a message and I'll get back to him when I have time.
 

Benjamin

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In 2016, and yes that was 8 years ago, he was asked [and I've watched all of these videos] - if he ever asks God for forgiveness. He said "No. If I do something bad, I try to do good things to make up for it. That's kind of like asking for forgiveness."

I told myself I would not stray off topic and I'm not trying to debate you on Trump's salvation, but I just came across these and considering our discussion, I'm wondering if you've seen these videos, to which I wonder if you would agree that it reveals some heart knowledge of Jesus?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D39jvlaWIfU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WUAI9CtLnrQ
 
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