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Trump withdrew from vital treaties with Russia. Why?

FollowTheWay

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A farewell to the Open Skies Treaty, and an era of imaginative thinking

Trump Unilaterally withdrew from the 1992 Open Skies Treaty which allowed the U. S., Canada, Russia and various European nations to fly unarmed surveillance flights in each others air space. Our European allies begged him to not walk out on this treaty based originally on the ideas of President Eisenhower. Our withdrawal gave Russia the ammunition to ignore the treaty too as did Trump's withdrawal from the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. Now Russia is openly talking about using tactical nuclear weapons in the Ukraine. Why did Trump back out of these vital treaties? To help his master Putin?
 
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FollowTheWay said:
A farewell to the Open Skies Treaty, and an era of imaginative thinking

Trump Unilaterally withdrew from the 1992 Open Skies Treaty which allowed the U. S., Canada, Russia and various European nations to fly unarmed surveillance flights in each others air space. Our European allies begged him to not walk out on this treaty based originally on the ideas of President Eisenhower. Our withdrawal gave Russia the ammunition to ignore the treaty too as did Trump's withdrawal from the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. Now Russia is openly talking about using tactical nuclear weapons in the Ukraine. Why did Trump back out of these vital treaties? To help his master Putin?
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Because Russia was breaking them and Trump wanted to upgrade our nuclear arsenal.
 
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Reynolds said:
There was no meaningful surveillance before. The Obama deal was giving Iran nukes, he just wanted to push it past his time in office.
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Nuclear arms treaties have been vital for preventing a catastrophic nuclear war during and after the Cold War. Trump simply walked away from two of these, the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF) and the Iran Treaty as well as others including the SALT treaty.

Signed Dec. 8, 1987, the INF Treaty required the United States and the Soviet Union to verifiably eliminate all ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles with ranges between 500 and 5,500 kilometers. Distinguished by its unprecedented, intrusive inspection regime, including on-site inspections, the INF Treaty laid the groundwork for verification of the subsequent START I. The INF Treaty entered into force June 1, 1988, and the two sides completed their reductions by June 1, 1991, destroying a total of 2,692 missiles. The agreement was multilateralized after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and current active participants in the agreement include the United States, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine. Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are also parties to the agreement but do not participate in treaty meetings or on-site inspections. The ban on intermediate-range missiles is of unlimited duration.

Both the United States and Russia have raised concerns about the other side’s compliance with the INF Treaty. The United States first publicly charged Russia in 2014 with developing and testing a ground-launched cruise missile—the 9M729 missile—with a range that exceeds the INF Treaty limits.

Obama objected to Russian noncompliance but realized that it has been vital to maintain a structure within which to TALK about dangerous situations. Are you old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? I am. ONE Russian officer on a Soviet nuclear armed submarine made the right decision and prevented a nuclear holocaust.

The Iran treaty was an agreement between Iran and the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States—plus Germany)[a] together with the European Union.

After the Trump administration twice certified Iran's compliance in 2017, in May 2018 the United States withdrew from JCPOA as Trump pledged he would negotiate a better deal. Trump left office without fulfilling that pledge and analysts determined Iran had moved closer to developing a nuclear weapon since the American withdrawal.[9]

Another one of Trump's innumerable broken promises. He foolishly believed that we could win a nuclear war with Russia or anybody else. NOBODY WINS a nuclear war.
 
canadyjd

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FollowTheWay said:
Nuclear arms treaties have been vital for preventing a catastrophic nuclear war during and after the Cold War. Trump simply walked away from two of these, the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF) and the Iran Treaty as well as others including the SALT treaty.

Signed Dec. 8, 1987, the INF Treaty required the United States and the Soviet Union to verifiably eliminate all ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles with ranges between 500 and 5,500 kilometers. Distinguished by its unprecedented, intrusive inspection regime, including on-site inspections, the INF Treaty laid the groundwork for verification of the subsequent START I. The INF Treaty entered into force June 1, 1988, and the two sides completed their reductions by June 1, 1991, destroying a total of 2,692 missiles. The agreement was multilateralized after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and current active participants in the agreement include the United States, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine. Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan are also parties to the agreement but do not participate in treaty meetings or on-site inspections. The ban on intermediate-range missiles is of unlimited duration.

Both the United States and Russia have raised concerns about the other side’s compliance with the INF Treaty. The United States first publicly charged Russia in 2014 with developing and testing a ground-launched cruise missile—the 9M729 missile—with a range that exceeds the INF Treaty limits.

Obama objected to Russian noncompliance but realized that it has been vital to maintain a structure within which to TALK about dangerous situations. Are you old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? I am. ONE Russian officer on a Soviet nuclear armed submarine made the right decision and prevented a nuclear holocaust.

The Iran treaty was an agreement between Iran and the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States—plus Germany)[a] together with the European Union.

After the Trump administration twice certified Iran's compliance in 2017, in May 2018 the United States withdrew from JCPOA as Trump pledged he would negotiate a better deal. Trump left office without fulfilling that pledge and analysts determined Iran had moved closer to developing a nuclear weapon since the American withdrawal.[9]

Another one of Trump's innumerable broken promises. He foolishly believed that we could win a nuclear war with Russia or anybody else. NOBODY WINS a nuclear war.
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The Iran agreement was not a formal treaty. The US Senate never gave its approval. It was an agreement with the Obama administration that had no lasting mandate for Trump to keep it.

The agreement gave Iran everything it wanted, including the development of a nuclear weapon, if only they waited a few years.

Trump rightly saw it was a problem and withdrew, and put sanctions on Iran that would do more to stop them from getting the nukes than the agreement, which guaranteed they would get the nukes.

Another great foreign policy victory for President Trump.

peace to you
 
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