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Trump would have won a popular vote contest as well

Calminian

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago
If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily​

Couldn't have said it better myself. Winning the popular vote in an electoral college contest is meaningless. It's like losing a football game and complaining you had more total yardage. Silly argument. Love how Trump is still tweeting. Hope he never gives it up.
 

777

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Yep, and they don't even count absentee ballots in some states if they're within a certain margin. The existence of the electoral college is another example of why this is a constitutional republic, not a "democracy".

The CA popular vote was padded by illegal immigrants that voted, the Illinois vote was padded by dead voters, and the Virginia vote was padded by McAwful felons. You're never going to be able to get rid of the EC, that would require a constitutional amendment that states like ND, NH, OR, would never ratify.
 

Calminian

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Yep, and they don't even count absentee ballots in some states if they're within a certain margin. The existence of the electoral college is another example of why this is a constitutional republic, not a "democracy".

The CA popular vote was padded by illegal immigrants that voted, the Illinois vote was padded by dead voters, and the Virginia vote was padded by McAwful felons. You're never going to be able to get rid of the EC, that would require a constitutional amendment that states like ND, NH, OR, would never ratify.

Plus many Christians didn't vote in CA. There were some groups telling them not to bother since CA was deep blue. I've always thought this to be a mistake, but it's true. Millions don't vote for that reason.
 

Rob_BW

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The strategy was based on the rules in place.

Imagine if a football fan said, "Well, if field goals were worth 6 points and touchdowns were worth 3 points, our team would have won!!!"
 

Baptist Believer

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago
If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily​

Couldn't have said it better myself. Winning the popular vote in an electoral college contest is meaningless. It's like losing a football game and complaining you had more total yardage. Silly argument. Love how Trump is still tweeting. Hope he never gives it up.
That's simply a boast. No one knows how the election would have turned out. Clinton came fairly close to tipping Texas her way - with no campaigning here and only a small number of ads.
 

Baptist Believer

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Yep, and they don't even count absentee ballots in some states if they're within a certain margin.
That's an internet "truth," but not a real world truth. From everything I have been able to find from authoritative sources, that is simply not true.

What are absentee ballots? Do they only count in close elections?
Many absentee ballots are cast by voters who are unable to vote at their physical polling place due to being an active duty military member, a family member of someone on active duty or a U.S. citizen residing overseas. All ballots submitted according to State laws are counted in every election.
The media often will report the projected outcome of the election before all of the ballots are counted. In a close election, the media may report that the outcome cannot be announced until after the absentee ballots are counted. However, all ballots, including absentee ballots, are counted in the final totals for every election - and every vote (absentee or in-person) counts the same.


The existence of the electoral college is another example of why this is a constitutional republic, not a "democracy".
Yes.

The CA popular vote was padded by illegal immigrants that voted, the Illinois vote was padded by dead voters, and the Virginia vote was padded by McAwful felons.
Do you have real evidence for that assertion - not some internet site run out of the Balkans?
 

Baptist Believer

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Plus many Christians didn't vote in CA. There were some groups telling them not to bother since CA was deep blue. I've always thought this to be a mistake, but it's true. Millions don't vote for that reason.
Maybe, but if that's the case, then millions of Clinton voters probably did the same thing in red states. There was little doubt that Texas was going to go red, but it almost didn't and there was no "get out the vote" campaign here by Democrats.
 

777

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Do you have real evidence for that assertion - not some internet site run out of the Balkans?

Read the other link, sounds like they DO count all the ballots, I stand corrected. That actually makes more sense - if they only opened the absentee ballots in case of a close race, in a general election like this one, there are usually a dozen or more races.

McAwful did do that, doubt it was the reason for Hillary winning the state alone, though:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/05/politics/virginia-felons-voting-rights/index.html

the dead voting in Chicago is an old joke based on truth:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10...go-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/

I think the Machine in Chicago delivers the WH to the Democrat every time - look at the adjacent states and how they voted.

the illegals, who knows, I know for a fact some of them vote by mail here but I'd never report them, not my job but I have heard the number three million float by. I think they are extrapolating that from that survey that claimed 13% of illegals say they regularly vote.
 

Salty

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Isn't it a felony for a non-citizen to vote?
It is up to the State/Commonwealth to determine the eligibility of voters.
If a jurisdiction wanted to let 12 year old to vote - the Constitution does not prohibit it.
If a jurisdiction allows non-citizens to vote - the Constitution does not prohibit it.
 

Salty

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Seems like these folks seem to think Trump would've won the popular vote as well too: http://resistancefeed.com/2016/11/12/hillary-still-unlikely-to-win-popular-vote/
The article states that States/commonwealths do not count absentee ballots unless they would make a difference in the election day results.
Where did that false info come from.

I contacted my county board of elections today - I was informed that beginning this Friday absentee ballots will be counted for all races and the count will continue until all ballots are counted.
 
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