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Trump's Food Stamp Reform Proposal

Earth Wind and Fire

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For the record, I personally consider the elected Democrats to be reprobates so far beyond help that I do not even entertain the idea that they will do anything good.
For the record, I don’t like or trust any politician. It’s a scummy profession in general.
 

TCassidy

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Wow... must be a rich church.
Spiritually, certainly. Financially? Probably a bit higher than average due to the large number of retired people who move here for the wonderful weather (85 degrees and sunny today).

We average around 800 on Sunday morning with a budget of over $1 million.
 

FollowTheWay

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You set a false standard that could never be met--churches paying for the uninsured health insurance--and then say he is dreaming to think that.

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I showed that churches could not provide the level of support needed by the poor in America. Therefore, continuously saying that you support individual efforts but oppose government efforts to help them is the same as saying you don't support giving the poor in America critical support.
 

FollowTheWay

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Hey - I have an idea - Get Nancy and those who work for her to donate a few "crumbs " to the welfare budget allotment.

Problem solved!!

HankD
Many of those companies who gave bonuses to employees are now laying them off. I know AT&T has enacted a plan to do that. Also Walmart.
 

Adonia

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A lot of it is wasted on our already bloated military. Even so, just to provide the health insurance for all the people who don't it including the millions on Obamacare would cost every Christian church in America $200,000/yr. Stop dreaming about this being done. You're killing people by the minute.

Bloated military, surely you jest? Training death's are at an all time high and equipment is cannibalized to keep other pieces of equipment going. In a world where we have many enemies like the Chinese and the Russians, we had better keep are military in top notch condition with the latest in weapons and technology. Without their protection we are toast and nothing else would matter.

Our main financial problem is all the entitlements that the government has to fund. From Social Security and all it's bastard children, to welfare, public housing, food stamps etc. those are the programs that have become bloated and out of control. The sad fact with all of them is that not one is a proper Federal government responsibility authorized by the U.S. Constitution.
 

Rob_BW

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So page 12 of your link, in a table labeled "Top 10 commodities (of 238) by expenditure," soft drinks are #1 for SNAP households and #2 for non-SNAP households.

On page 25 it says "The top two commodities were the same for SNAP and non-SNAP households, namely soft drinks and fluid milk products, although the order was reversed with soft drinks ranked first for SNAP households compared to fluid milk products for non-SNAP households. However, while expenditure proportions were similar for fluid milk products across the two household types (4 cents per dollar), expenditure proportions on soft drinks were slightly higher for SNAP households compared to non-SNAP households (5 cents versus 4 cents per dollar)."

So, are you going to admit that your first statement was wrong, and that the link that you yourself posted proves that you were wrong?

Integrity check, aisle 1.
 

Adonia

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The next time you are in line at the grocery checkout and there is a SNAP recipient in front of you look carefully at what they actually have in their cart. Trump has a great idea, though I would have made the program all encompassing. If people don't like the food staples that the government gives out then they can just go get a job and buy what they want with their own money.
 

Rob_BW

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I'll say it again, WIC is a great model of how to run a food program. Something similar should be the replacement for SNAP.
 
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Our main financial problem is all the entitlements that the government has to fund. From Social Security and all it's bastard children, to welfare, public housing, food stamps etc. those are the programs that have become bloated and out of control. The sad fact with all of them is that not one is a proper Federal government responsibility authorized by the U.S. Constitution.
Big difference between Social Security and Welfare, food stamps, ect
SS - is paid for by the recipients
other programs are NOT paid for by recipients.


IMHO - SS should NOT be counted in with the regular budget.- should be totally separate!
 

InTheLight

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AT&T to cut about 4,600 jobs
In my former VP area a 7% cut and this was not an "old technology" area. Moibility VoIP and IP networking.
Barnes & Noble cites new staffing policy in layoffs

AT&T article is undated but cites a three year plan instituted in 2006 to eliminate jobs. Also says first quarter earnings will be out soon. This tells me the article can't be describing recent events.

Further digging shows your article about AT&T cutting 4,600 jobs in the wake of the Trump tax reform is actually from 2008.

CORRECTED: AT&T to cut about 4,600 jobs, take charge

This is either gross dishonesty or ignorance. Neither is helping your argument.

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InTheLight

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AT&T to cut about 4,600 jobs
In my former VP area a 7% cut and this was not an "old technology" area. Moibility VoIP and IP networking.
Barnes & Noble cites new staffing policy in layoffs
As far as I know, Barnes and Noble never announced bonuses would be given to workers after Trump's tax cuts were announced. They don't appear on this list by Fox News.

Tax reform windfall: These companies are hiking pay, delivering bonuses




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InTheLight

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Looks like AT&T is churning their workforce. They are laying off union workers and replacing them with subcontractors. This allows them to avoid paying payroll taxes (FICA and Medicare.) So, yes they are laying off workers. But they are hiring new ones to replace them. This action was probably planned for months before the tax reform vote and probably before Trump was elected. Still, it is an underhanded move.

As to Wal Mart, your article shows they are laying off 1,000 workers in California. That's a tactical move related to a regional market and not a company-wide strategy. It seems coincidental to the tax cuts.

Also, when Wal Mart announced the bonuses tied to the Trump tax cuts they also announced they were raising their internal minimum wage and giving paid maternal leave and paid parental leave (including adoptive parents) to full time employees. This is is a huge change and is much more costly than a one-time bonus.


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InTheLight

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So, are you going to admit that your first statement was wrong, and that the link that you yourself posted proves that you were wrong?

Seems to be the norm for FollowTheWay. Could be a long wait.


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HankD

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Thank you

Here's what an AT&T spokesperson told us today:

We're adding people in many parts of our business that are experiencing higher customer demand. At the same time, technology improvements are driving higher efficiencies and there are some areas where demand for our legacy services continues to decline, and we're adjusting our workforce in some of those areas.

We'll work to find other AT&T jobs for as many affected employees as possible. Regarding premises technicians, we adjust the workforce based on changing market dynamics, which vary from region to region. In some regions, we are hiring these same resources and these employees have the opportunity to transfer to those locations. It's important to note that we still have thousands more premises technicians than we did two years ago.

In my former VP area a 7% cut and this was not an "old technology" area. Moibility VoIP and IP networking.

Barnes & Noble cites new staffing policy in layoffs

OK they had no excuses. That's one for sure.

As for Walmart (or any company) the bottom line is the sum total of employees positive or negative.

A mammoth like Walmart one would expect some layoffs locally by circumstance.
Do you have statistics?
 
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