Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" Vaccine Plan--"A Few Hundred Million Doses"

[Calminian]

I said "responsible people" - others need not apply. I doubt your view on vaccines and conspiracy theories would change regardless of the threat...

I'm not anti-vaccine. Nice try though.

 

[Benjamin]

Yet you will. Just like you pay for those who don’t get a flu shot and get the flu or don’t take care of themselves and get diabetes or any number of problems get that might have been avoidable and they end up using medical resources - paid for through private insurance premiums or by taxpayers through Medicaid, Medicare, etc.

Oh, you're right, and you're singing my song! But it won't stop me from complaining about it! Just like I do about the neglectful obesity problems in this country that are responsible for the vast majority of healthcare expenses. You know, like you're supposed to not dare to criticize obesity ...but I do anyway.

 

[InTheLight]

Oh, you're right, and you're singing my song! But it won't stop me from complaining about it! Just like I do about the neglectful obesity problems in this country that are responsible for the vast majority of healthcare expenses. You know, like you're supposed to not dare to criticize obesity ...but I do anyway.

Don't get me started on this.

There is a new tolerance, even enthusiasm for being obese. I noticed on Pluto TV there is a channel devoted to "plus sized African American women". Also, there is the whole "Lizzo look", based on the pop singing star. I dare anyone reading this to type into the Google Search bar: "Lizzo images".

Victoria Secret models are now publicly shamed for being wire hanger thin. Episodes of popular sit-coms deal with the self-image of fat people and how there's nothing wrong with being overweight, even grossly overweight.

We sometimes watch Family Feud and boy, oh boy, but there are some big folk on that show! What's happened to America?

 

[Calminian]

Man, the fat police are out in force today.

 

[Benjamin]

If this is true, why are we planning on making 300 million doses?

Hey, we want plenty to go around and we have have friends. Also it might be a 2 vaccine course. As long as China is the last ones we share with I'm good...

P.S. if it is a 2 course vac 300 million doses would only cover 150 million people which would barely make the standard for herd immunity effect needed (70%) even including natural immunity from recovered cases. Still it would greatly reduce the spread for everyone.

 

[Benjamin]

Don't get me started on this.

There is a new tolerance, even enthusiasm for being obese.

Yeah, the mindset is it is taboo to talk about it, you must worship it, you dare call it like it is and you get called the "fat police" or something.

 

[Benjamin]

I don't know why the military is getting involved.

I just saw this:
The Army Research Laboratory (ARL) is vigorously pursuing technical innovations aimed at “discovering” and engineering new antibodies able to attach to and destroy coronavirus, thereby helping those severely impacted with an infection, service scientists told Warrior.
Army researchers may have discovered new coronavirus-killing antibodies

Trump would absolutely love to say our military came up with a treatment or vaccine.

 

[timtofly]

God designed us to live forever. Death is the result of sin.

If God designed us to live forever, why does this body of flesh return to dust? What part lives forever? Why did Abel who never sinned die at the hand of his brother?

 

[timtofly]

Will, then, did God fail? Because you said, "God designed a natural way for us to live naturally for thousands of years." Since we don't live for thousands of years, something happened to God's design, right?

One of the advantages of living in the middle of Africa is that I don't get much spam in my emails. I get plenty of it right here on BB, though.

I meant thousands of years without modern medicine. Living in the heart of Africa, you should have understood what I said. If God has let some created on day 6 to still be alive, are you complaining because they are 7000 years old? You probably don't understand/accept Genesis 1:27 either. It does not say that Adam was the sole being created. In fact Adam did not get a name or purpose until chapter 2 when God took him from out of a group of other humans and put him in the Garden of Eden. People tend to skip over the finer details in the Bible.

 

[KenH]

when God took him from out of a group of other humans and put him in the Garden of Eden.

Prove it.

 

[KenH]

If God designed us to live forever, why does this body of flesh return to dust?

One of the results of Adam’s sin.

 

[KenH]

Why did Abel who never sinned die at the hand of his brother?

What makes you think Abel never sinned?

Besides, Adam represented all mankind, when he sinned, we all became guilty.

“Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.” - Romans‬ ‭5:18-19‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.” - 1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:22‬ ‭ESV‬‬

 

[JonC]

Apparently they have not watched I Am Legend.

 

[timtofly]

What makes you think Abel never sinned?

Besides, Adam represented all mankind, when he sinned, we all became guilty.

“Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.” - Romans‬ ‭5:18-19‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.” - 1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:22‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Do you know how biological reproduction works, because all humankind kind today came from Adam and Eve. We are copies of Adam literally. Even if Adam never sinned another day in his life, he would still die in sin, for that one sin.

Was Abel in God’s presence like Adam was? How can God let sin in God’s presence?

 

[timtofly]

Prove it.

15 Adonai, God, took the person and put him in the garden of ‘Eden to cultivate and care for it.

 

[KenH]

15 Adonai, God, took the person and put him in the garden of ‘Eden to cultivate and care for it.

Weak argument. Very, very weak argument. You seem to have some rather weird ideas. I suggest you spend time in prayerful Bible study. Maybe find a sound teacher who can ground you better in the faith.

 

[KenH]

Was Abel in God’s presence like Adam was? How can God let sin in God’s presence?

Huh?

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

The vaccine is the hope for the future. I applaud the President for fast tracking this. What I wonder about is the number of doses and use of the military to distribute the doses. The number of doses suggests that it is meant for everyone in the United States. Because of this, I wonder if the vaccine will be mandatory, or if it will there will be conditions for accepting it. I don't know why the military is getting involved. Anybody want to speculate why they are going to be involved in the distribution of the vaccine?

Trump involved military in this fight early on, and he noted why. Logistics. They are experts.

 

[carpro]

The vaccine is the hope for the future. I applaud the President for fast tracking this. What I wonder about is the number of doses and use of the military to distribute the doses. The number of doses suggests that it is meant for everyone in the United States. Because of this, I wonder if the vaccine will be mandatory, or if it will there will be conditions for accepting it. I don't know why the military is getting involved. Anybody want to speculate why they are going to be involved in the distribution of the vaccine?

Speculation at this time is a waste of time. It smacks more of innuendo than anything else.

 

[Salty]

Here is what I am surprised about - That an extreme Far left liberal has not stated that he is glad that Trump is taking that medication - because he does - he will probably not make it and then (at least for a bit) Nancy will be second in line for !President