Truth on Palin coming out

[LeBuick]

Not one named source.......

Not yet, it's only been a couple of days. The real stories haven't begun to surface, this is just the first wave.

Also, you can say this is just unhappy staffers, however, how do you have so many unhappy staffers in just two months? Is this what you want from the nations top administration or would you prefer she fills he staff with "yes" folks?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Perhaps she spent more time moose hunting with her dad than she did in class. Did you notice Piper was with Palin at just about every rally? I started wondering why she wasn't in school. But maybe AK has a different schedule from us.

And maybe you're a hack that isn't worth talking to. Get real, would you ?

This is the point Bro Curtis, the far right of the party loves Sarah but the moderates are not in her corner. How can she get elected without the moderates? The far right is only about 25% of the party and is not nearly enough to put any candidate in office alone. This means if she wants to make any national office she has to begin to compromise on her positions which would loose her the far right but will satisfy her political ambitions.

Have you noticed the moderate republicans being purged out of the party ? I think your wrong. I think a true conservative would have won in a landslide. despite the elctoral vote, the zero only won by 6% of the popular vote. And liberal ballot measures went down in flames all over the country. gay marriage in CA, for instance.

And what is your interest in spreading these types of unfounded rumors ?

The way she tried to sell the proximity of AK to Russia as foreign policy experience and the fact that she couldn't name a periodical or a supreme court decision, well, let's just say, I don't own a set of Palin colored glasses like are being worn on the far right. I see her for who she is.

I feel sorry for you. You see her for what the drive-by-media wants you too.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Not yet, it's only been a couple of days. The real stories haven't begun to surface, this is just the first wave.

Also, you can say this is just unhappy staffers, however, how do you have so many unhappy staffers in just two months? Is this what you want from the nations top administration or would you prefer she fills he staff with "yes" folks?

Because Washington loves McCain, and fears Palin.

 

[monk]

Because Washington loves McCain, and fears Palin.

As they should. This is the highest job in the land. It should not be handed to someone who does not know her geography.
I have a feeling that people know these things but are afraid to admit it because the right has become so narrow that if one so much as bats an eye at an issue or a candidate they become an outsider and labeled as a liberal.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

What Washington needs is reform. And I don't believe the article. I think she knows Africa is not a country.

Paint me as far right, if that makes you feel superior.

 

[tinytim]

How is this on topic in a thread about Gov Palin's weaknesses?

On topic - I don't get to watch Fox here.

Is this real or satire? I suspect the latter.

YOu poor deprived man... http://www.foxnews.com/

 

[rbell]

Wow...Lebuick, with his hatred of Palin, should get together with BB, and his hatred of Bush.

They could run as a team...maybe they could form a new party, the Obsessivecrats.

 

[LeBuick]

Have you noticed the moderate republicans being purged out of the party ? I think your wrong. I think a true conservative would have won in a landslide. despite the elctoral vote, the zero only won by 6% of the popular vote. And liberal ballot measures went down in flames all over the country. gay marriage in CA, for instance..

You just don't get it. How do you think Obama won? He had the modest republican's on his side. He took RED STATES. Did you see that? Not that they necessarily wanted him but they were afraid to have Palin one heart beat from the oval office.

Sure, there were some modest republican's that bought into the Muslim, Terrorist scare tactics and there were some who wouldn't vote for a non-white candidate but you saw people like Powell, Goldwaters etc... endorse Obama. You guys are pushing your own constituency to the other side with your far right views (what you call true conservative) and what remains loyal (true conservative) aren't enough in numbers to elect any candidate. Palin has far right support but the far right can't put her in office.

Lastly, it was the liberals who passed the ballot measure in CA. Didn't you see my other post? The blacks and latino's (Obama supporters) are the ones who passed the legislation. Again, the far right whites were not enough in number to pass anything into law. The sooner you guys realize this you will meet the rest of us somewhere in the middle or you will be left to feel disenfranchised.

Look at the results of this past election. Close to 60% of the whites voted for McCain but the minorities of this land along with the remaining 40% of white voters made their voice heard, this is our Country also and we refuse to be made to feel un-American because we don't agree with the far right.

This is a new day in politics...

 

[LeBuick]

Wow...Lebuick, with his hatred of Palin, should get together with BB, and his hatred of Bush.

They could run as a team...maybe they could form a new party, the Obsessivecrats.

It's not a hatred of Palin as much as it is a love for my country. You guys wearing your Palin colored glasses can't/won't see the truth and are making incorrect excuses for why McCain didn't win. The rest of us saw who Palin was and didn't want her no where near the oval office.

Palin lost you just enough votes to put Obama in office. I can't pretend that I'm mad about that but I did want to give you honest feedback.

 

[dragonfly]

Oh, drop it. Quit gloating and be quiet, will you??

Sour grapes don't taste very well, do they? :laugh:

I believe Palin's fifteen minutes of fame are over. She will go the way of Dan Quayle, and be the laughing stock of many conversations to come. Too bad considering what she might have become if she hadn't got mixed up in McCain's disastrous campaign. Now it appears the McCain camp is attempting to use Palin as a scape goat.

 

[LeBuick]

Sour grapes don't taste very well, do they? :laugh:

I believe Palin's fifteen minutes of fame are over. She will go the way of Dan Quayle, and be the laughing stock of many conversations to come. Too bad considering what she might have become if she hadn't got mixed up in McCain's disastrous campaign. Now it appears the McCain camp is attempting to use Palin as a scape goat.

Which really doesn't make sense, he was the one with a new message every day. It was hard to keep track of his positions. Then he said he would run a clean campaign just before he attacked with everything but Rev Wright.

 

[rbell]

It's not a hatred of Palin as much as it is a love for my country. You guys wearing your Palin colored glasses can't/won't see the truth and are making incorrect excuses for why McCain didn't win. The rest of us saw who Palin was and didn't want her no where near the oval office.

Palin lost you just enough votes to put Obama in office. I can't pretend that I'm mad about that but I did want to give you honest feedback.

LeBuick, you've hated Palin since day 1. You take every thread--no matter what the subject--and turn it into a Palin-bash.

I don't know if Palin was qualified or not. But it's laughable to claim she wasn't, and then somehow claim Obama was. At least she had executive experience.

The other thing--it amazes me that you are able to tell us exactly how many votes Palin cost McCain. You seem to forget that she shored up the conservative base for McCain, who isn't a particularly conservative Republican.

But, we all bow to your superior wisdom.

Quite honestly, I'm not sure she was the best candidate for the job. But people like you never gave her a fair shake...or at least, you didn't make the Chosen One play by the rules that the Barracuda had to play by.

At least be consistent.

 

[tinytim]

Without Palin, McCain never would have gotten my vote!
So here is one vote for McCain because of Palin....

 

[LeBuick]

LeBuick, you've hated Palin since day 1. You take every thread--no matter what the subject--and turn it into a Palin-bash.

You're right, I saw through the facade on day one then tried to help others to see the truth also. Believe me, I don't hate anyone but I clearly saw she wasn't ready for the oval office and she wasn't who they said she was.

I don't know if Palin was qualified or not. But it's laughable to claim she wasn't, and then somehow claim Obama was. At least she had executive experience.

Depends on your view of ready, I saw Obama as a capable leader with flaws. He is far from perfect but I do think he's capable. He will surround himself with good people and most of all he will give them a voice and then listen.

The other thing--it amazes me that you are able to tell us exactly how many votes Palin cost McCain. You seem to forget that she shored up the conservative base for McCain, who isn't a particularly conservative Republican.

True she did. However, the conservative base didn't need to be sured up, they would have voted against Obama on election day. You saw their faces, you heard their fears of Obama, they would have showed up and voted against Obama no matter how much they didn't want McCain.

Quite honestly, I'm not sure she was the best candidate for the job. But people like you never gave her a fair shake...or at least, you didn't make the Chosen One play by the rules that the Barracuda had to play by..

I agree, given time and a fair chance she might someday be what we need. I didn't feel this was her time. I also hope they market and advertise her with truth and not try to make her into something she isn't. Rolling off a long list of accomplishments only invites people to scratch them off one at a time as we investigate and learn they were very inflated.

Once I learned the truth about that bridge I have to admit, I saw that they were boosting her credentials to make her bigger than she was. One must ask, why would you do that if she is fully qualified? Had they have just said she was a Governor of a state with a thin resume like Obama had, I think she would have received far more fair reception.

 

[LeBuick]

Without Palin, McCain never would have gotten my vote!
So here is one vote for McCain because of Palin....

You saying you wouldn't have voted against Obama?

You're a minority from what I see...

 

[chuck2336]

Did you watch the video?

I agree Obama may not have been the best this Nation had to offer but I think he was the best ticket running. I can safely say he can name the countries in North America and knows Africa is a continent and not a country. Also, I wouldn't want her no where near the button if the parts are true about her temper tantrums etc...

In a democracy, there is no way the peoples choice can endanger the Constitution since the Constitution is what we say it is. If we don't like it, we simply amend it. If it doesn't say what we're doing is right, we just amend it.

The Constitution is made for us and not us for the Constitution. A document can't hold the people prisoner in a democracy. You federalist are going to have a real hard time realizing the Constitution is what we say it is and not what you believe it is.

Wasnt it Obama that said he had been to 54 of the states and still had a few more to go.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You just don't get it. How do you think Obama won? He had the modest republican's on his side. He took RED STATES. Did you see that? Not that they necessarily wanted him but they were afraid to have Palin one heart beat from the oval office.

Prove it. I say Palin is what got him his 54 million votes. Give me one reason he would be any different from Obama.

You are letting your hatred of Palin lead your brain around.

Sure, there were some modest republican's that bought into the Muslim, Terrorist scare tactics and there were some who wouldn't vote for a non-white candidate but you saw people like Powell, Goldwaters etc... endorse Obama. You guys are pushing your own constituency to the other side with your far right views (what you call true conservative) and what remains loyal (true conservative) aren't enough in numbers to elect any candidate. Palin has far right support but the far right can't put her in office.

You want to write me off as a far rightist ? Go ahead. It doesn't change anything. Palin was what got McCain the little conservative support he did.

Lastly, it was the liberals who passed the ballot measure in CA. Didn't you see my other post? The blacks and latino's (Obama supporters) are the ones who passed the legislation. Again, the far right whites were not enough in number to pass anything into law. The sooner you guys realize this you will meet the rest of us somewhere in the middle or you will be left to feel disenfranchised.

Look at the results of this past election. Close to 60% of the whites voted for McCain but the minorities of this land along with the remaining 40% of white voters made their voice heard, this is our Country also and we refuse to be made to feel un-American because we don't agree with the far right.

This is a new day in politics...

I will not meet you in the middle, sorry. The bible tells me what to cling to, and what to shun. It doesn't make me feel disenfranchised, it makes me feel vindicated.

And I have not said the word "un-American". That is you wanting to be a victim so bad you will put words in my mouth.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Sour grapes don't taste very well, do they? :laugh:

I believe Palin's fifteen minutes of fame are over. She will go the way of Dan Quayle, and be the laughing stock of many conversations to come. Too bad considering what she might have become if she hadn't got mixed up in McCain's disastrous campaign. Now it appears the McCain camp is attempting to use Palin as a scape goat.

Dan Quayle is far from a laughing stock.....


Dan Quayle is Chairman of an international division of Cerberus Capital Management, a multi-billion dollar private equity firm, and president of Quayle and Associates. He is an Honorary Trustee Emeritus of the Hudson Institute.
Quayle authored a memoir, Standing Firm, which became a bestseller. His second book, The American Family: Discovering the Values that Make Us Strong, was published in the spring of 1996 and a third book, Worth Fighting For, in 1999. Quayle also writes a nationally syndicated newspaper column, serves on a number of corporate boards, chairs several business ventures, and was chairman of Campaign America, a national political action committee. As chairman of the international advisory board of Cerberus Capital Management, he recruited former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney, who would have been installed as chairman if Cerberus had successfully acquired Air Canada.


From Wikipedia./...

 

[Steven2006]

Without Palin, McCain never would have gotten my vote!
So here is one vote for McCain because of Palin....

That's a head scratcher. After reading many of your posts about how horrendous you feel about Obama winning, and yet you weren't motivated to vote Republican until Palin?

 

[dcorbett]

I stand behind my assertion that Obama, in addition to not being presidential material, is a danger to the Constitution and the country.

Amen! Hide your guns, because obama will take them away - watch out for homosexuals who are mad about the new amendments in over 30 states, because obama will back their marriages, pray for the unborn babies that obama will AGAIN vote to slaughter, and pray for a half white man who denies his caucasian blood, and listens to a so-called pastor preach "God-d**n America" for 20 + years.