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Truth on Palin coming out

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righteousdude2

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Your Post is Based on Gossip and Rumors....

I submit, that we may never know the truth as to who was right and who was wrong; who said this, and who said that. The premise that you present is founded on mostly on rumors; one-sided; and something Believers should never regress to, as the Bible warns agaisnt GOSSIP......

LB, you're a smart man, so answer me this: If Palin was so bad and difficult to work with, why have we not heard such rumors, or truths coming out of Alaska from those who have worked with her in the past while getting her elected to Governor?

I say that, while there will always be some amount of friction in such a "high-stakes" campaign, I seriously doubt that the news now coming forth is nothing more than an attempt to further smear Palin. It was apparent throughout the campaign that there was mishandling of the governor, and McCain. His campaign staff was extremely lethargic, and should have been fired. Overall, they made too many mistakes to discuss on this post, but, they all want to work in the political scene again, so they are simply doing the D.C. CYA dance step!

Secondly, it was never a doubt in my heart that Palin was a born-again believer, and it is my desire to stand up for my brothers and sisters in the court of public opinion until I see actual facts to prove my loyalty was misplaced.

As a brother to Palin, you owe her the benefit of your doubt. The people that work in the pits for a campaign are probably not believers, and the attacks that are coming could very well be the words and deeds of the enemy to suppress this person from running again, and believe me, she would be the best choice for POTUS considering her stand on abortion, partial-birth abortion, homosexuals, the sanctity of marriage, etc. She seems to be the first candidate, in a long time, that stood for Jesus, and if anything, I believe it was her stand on the Word of God that hurt her more than the rumors of her bad attitude.

Think about this, and ask if you post may be aiding and abetting the enemy [Satan] in the war against another believer. Trust me on this. Get the actual facts, and let her accusers go face-to-face with Palin. Someone that is loved as much as she is in Alaska can't be as diva, prima donna like as she is being accused of.

Blessings to you as you look to God, and allow God to judge Sarah. That is not our job, and you know this is true.:thumbs:

Shalom,

Pastor Paul:type:
 

LadyEagle

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You want to write me off as a far rightist ? Go ahead. It doesn't change anything. Palin was what got McCain the little conservative support he did.

Yep. I wasn't even going to vote until Palin joined the ticket. It gave me hope once again. Obviously liberals do not have understanding of how conservative brains and principles work.
 

LeBuick

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chuck2336 said:
Wasnt it Obama that said he had been to 54 of the states and still had a few more to go.

I think he said 57. He was obviously tired because we can safely assume a Harvard law grad who was top of his class and president of the Harvard law revue would know how many states there are.

This wasn't answering press questions, Palin was studying for her interviews and debate.
 

LeBuick

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Bro. Curtis said:
Prove it. I say Palin is what got him his 54 million votes. Give me one reason he would be any different from Obama.

What do you mean prove it, doesn't that fact that Obama took 7 red states tell you obviously got red votes? He sure didn't get a vote from the far right so it must have been moderates.

Bro. Curtis said:
I will not meet you in the middle, sorry. The bible tells me what to cling to, and what to shun. It doesn't make me feel disenfranchised, it makes me feel vindicated.

Doesn't this sound familiar, "cling to their guns and religion"?

Bro. Curtis said:
And I have not said the word "un-American". That is you wanting to be a victim so bad you will put words in my mouth.

Perhaps not you specifically but there has been many who has tossed that word around like it was the union label.
 

LeBuick

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dcorbett said:
and as for Palin.....

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/06/atantaros_1106/

I have never heard of a governor having an *80+% rating in their state before. It must be because she IS for the people, not for special interests.

I will vote for her if she runs.

Look at the demographics of her state, I don't think there's a more red state in the union. Minorities and contrary social views are all but non-existent in that state. Well, perhaps there is 20%. Then there is the only 600K people thing to consider. We have more people in our suburb than what she has in an entire state. The more people there are the more chances some won't like you.

I imagine she had a higher percentage than 80% in Wasilla with 9K republicans that all called her Sarah.
 

OldRegular

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LeBuick said:
Looks like the McCain camp is starting to tell the behind the scenes stories on Palin. I stand behind my feelings she wasn't VP material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJ-bJTIx-0

McCain's campaign was disfunctional from the start. For his staff to blame Governor Palin is the height of hypocrisy. I like to watch Carl Cameron but anyone who believes an unnamed source is naive or foolish. I don't believe Cameron is either! By the way, as a matter of information, O'Reilly takes great pride in being a moderate independent, whatever that is.

After Governor Palin was selected the leftist media, that includes all except Fox, spent more time in one month investigating her than they did in two years investigating the leftist Obama. As for her not knowing anything about NAFTA or South Africa I refuse to believe it. BUT FOR THOSE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THIS FALSEHOOD RECALL THAT OBAMA VISITED 57 STATES AND HAD ONE LEFT TO VISIT, PROBABLY ALASKA. AND PEOPLE WERE FOOLISH TO ELECT THIS MAN PRESIDENT.

Emphasis added for those still in the dark and believe that Obama was P material!
 
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LeBuick

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righteousdude2 said:
LB, you're a smart man, so answer me this: If Palin was so bad and difficult to work with, why have we not heard such rumors, or truths coming out of Alaska from those who have worked with her in the past while getting her elected to Governor?

Good question... The answer, most are written off or evident in her Maverick/reformist claim but it's hard to find someone hard to work with who is seldom at work to work with.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13736.html

Nineteen months totals 578 days, but after subtracting weekends and holidays, it is only about 397 workdays. Assuming Palin did not routinely bill the state for staying in her own home on weekends and holidays, she would have spent no more than 85 workdays in the state capital over the course of her 19 months in office, even if she traveled nowhere else in Alaska or outside of the state. That compares with 168 days that the Alaska Legislature was in session during the same period.

Now there was clearly tension in AK regarding her husbands role in her administration. I'll have to find the article that said her staff had to go through him to get to her. This was also brought up in the ethics investigation.

How would you feel if your bosses spouse called you to a meeting in your bosses office, sat in your bosses chair and discussed your work performance?
 

LeBuick

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OldRegular said:
McCain's campaign was disfunctional from the start. For his staff to blame Governor Palin is the height of hypocrisy.

You have a good point here, McCain didn't run a good campaign from the start. I think that's why I wondered what kind of administration he would have.
 

StefanM

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OldRegular said:
You made a poor choice. After Barr left the House he defected to the ACLU!:tonofbricks:

It was a protest vote. I did not want to vote for Obama, but I felt that Palin was simply not qualified to be VP. Rather than not vote, I voted for Barr.

I believe in fiercely protecting civil liberties, too. I don't agree with the ACLU all the time, but I do support some of the efforts.
 

JustChristian

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rbell said:
LeBuick, you've hated Palin since day 1. You take every thread--no matter what the subject--and turn it into a Palin-bash.

I don't know if Palin was qualified or not. But it's laughable to claim she wasn't, and then somehow claim Obama was. At least she had executive experience.

The other thing--it amazes me that you are able to tell us exactly how many votes Palin cost McCain. You seem to forget that she shored up the conservative base for McCain, who isn't a particularly conservative Republican.

But, we all bow to your superior wisdom.

Quite honestly, I'm not sure she was the best candidate for the job. But people like you never gave her a fair shake...or at least, you didn't make the Chosen One play by the rules that the Barracuda had to play by.

At least be consistent.

Do you really count being Mayor of a hamlet of 6,000 people? I was born in a town of 10,000 and I can't imagine anyone touting experience as Mayor of that town as being significant when running for Vice president. This is the Theater of the Absurd.
 

rbell

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dcorbett said:
Amen! Hide your guns, because obama will take them away - watch out for homosexuals who are mad about the new amendments in over 30 states, because obama will back their marriages, pray for the unborn babies that obama will AGAIN vote to slaughter, and pray for a half white man who denies his caucasian blood, and listens to a so-called pastor preach "God-d**n America" for 20 + years.

I highlighted the part of this post that I find kind of creepy.

Let's not go near a "white pride" argument.
 

rbell

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BaptistBeliever said:
Do you really count being Mayor of a hamlet of 6,000 people? I was born in a town of 10,000 and I can't imagine anyone touting experience as Mayor of that town as being significant when running for Vice president. This is the Theater of the Absurd.

1. This is still more experience than the messiah had.
2. You are aware she is governor of Alaska, right? That is an executive office, and counts as more experience than "community organizer."
 

dcorbett

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rbell said:
I highlighted the part of this post that I find kind of creepy.

Let's not go near a "white pride" argument.

No, that's not the point. HE is the one that is in denial and is half caucasian. HE is the one who only identifies with his black half. He wrote about it in his book. I don't care if he is purple with pink polka-dots. I want all this bru-ha-ha over the first black to cease. I am totally against what he stands for, not what color he is.
 

LeBuick

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rbell said:
1. This is still more experience than the messiah had.
2. You are aware she is governor of Alaska, right? That is an executive office, and counts as more experience than "community organizer."

LOL... You are right about the experience but it seems community organizer knew more about getting people out to vote.
 

carpro

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LeBuick said:
LOL... You are right about the experience but it seems community organizer knew more about getting people out to vote.

Chicago style politics are not usually legal, ethical or moral, but have a history of being effective on democrats.
 
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