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go2church said:Oh, don't get me wrong, the topic was about Palin, not Biden, I don't think he's qualified to run in place.
Matt Black said:The 'Africa' story is widely reported over here in the newspapers - not just the tabloids but the broadsheets too, so it is likely to be true.
Matt Black said:I'm on record as having stated here that Palin scared the living daylights out of me and this news does not disabuse me of that opinion.
Is it because she hunts??
padredurand said:Unnamed sources... insiders... people close to the candidate... some staffers.... Who are these mysterious people?
This is what I would consider to be factual..... A video clip with full disclosure....
"My name is John W. Smith. I worked in the McCain/Palin campaign as a senior "will somebody run to Dunkin Donuts" engineer. I was standing in the middle of the office with Gov Palin and 15 other staffers. Gov Palin stood up and asked, 'Africa is a continent? Who woulda thunk it?'
Behind me (John continues) are the 15 other staffers who witnessed this event."
That's news in my book. The rest of this is unsubstantiated rumor.
ShotGunWillie said:Matt Black said:I'm on record as having stated here that Palin scared the living daylights out of me and this news does not disabuse me of that opinion.
No*, it's because she came across as being dangerously ignorant **- as borne out by the current crop of info on her that's now emerging.Is it because she hunts??
*Although I do find it somewhat incongruous that someone who purports to be pro-life is frequently depicted toting a gun. Another example of cross-cultural differences, I guess.
[**ETA - as do I, thanks to mi por splenig!]
Revmitchell said:And why is that? Did news sources on your side of the pond have a source unlike here? Or does this just fit your fancy?
Matt Black said:The fact that it's been reported in both centre-right and centre-left (by our standards; they're probably all pinko-liberal-socialist by yours) papers * lends credence to it
*Although, oddly, not The Times, owned by the Murdoch Clan, the same people who own Fox.
ShotGunWillie said:I voted for McCain because of Palin.
She is going to be the goat in all of this. McCain never had a shot without her.
padredurand said:Matt, repeated reporting does not make something factual. How about specifics? Names, dates, places... the who, what, where, when of basic news gathering. This is water cooler gossip and no more.
The subject of the gossip makes it interesting - gives it some legs as they like to say in the world of media - but it doesn't make it true just because it has been told and retold.
I'm sure there are pastors on BB that have been at the receiving end of gossip and rumors. Pastor Joe couldn't go see Mrs. Gripesalot on Tuesday. Mrs. Gripesalot tells Mr. Blabbermouth that Pastor Joe didn't come on Tuesday. Mr. Blabbermouth thinks the facts lack drama so he tell Miss Busybody that Pastor Joe would not visit with Mrs. Gripesalot. Miss Busybody, thinking the embellished story still lacks drama, adds her two cents citing an unnamed person who heard that Pastor Joe has deep-rooted issues with Mrs. Gripesalot.... You see where this is going?
I'm not denying that it is possible that Gov. Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent. I think it unlikely, but that is a personal opinion based on my overall impression of her as presented in the very public forum of the worldwide media.
I'm more concerned with a world view that flourishes in a place where a person is so openly diminished and demeaned. It doesn't matter if it is Gov. Palin or Pastor Joe. It's like watching a house burn to the ground. We know people and property is being destroyed but we can't seem to avert our eyes. Are we really that selfish?
At the risk of mixing my metaphors.... it looks like a grown-up version of "My father can beat up your father."
Matt Black said:Story from the Daily Heil, right-wing newspaper in the UK, here
dragonfly said:After the trouncing McCain took in this election, it would seem he never had a chance regardless of his VP pick.
What does it matter what Palin knows or doesn't know. She lost the election; she will never be president or vice president regardless. Her fifteen minutes of fame are over. She will recede back to the wilderness of Alaska and never be heard of again in American national politics again. She has gone the way of Dan Quayle
"Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum told FOX News that McCain himself needs to come out and put a stop to the Palin criticism.
"She's the one that energized the base, she's the one that got the crowds out. ... She's the one that comes out of this without any scars and now they're trying to give her some," Santorum said. "John McCain should come out and say, 'This is ridiculous,' and set the record straight."
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/07/palin-aide-calls-anonymous-campaign-charges-sickening/
Matt Black said:ShotGunWillie said:Matt Black said:I'm on record as having stated here that Palin scared the living daylights out of me and this news does not disabuse me of that opinion.
No*, it's because she came across as being dangerously ignorant **- as borne out by the current crop of info on her that's now emerging.
*Although I do find it somewhat incongruous that someone who purports to be pro-life is frequently depicted toting a gun. Another example of cross-cultural differences, I guess.
[**ETA - as do I, thanks to mi por splenig!]
I would agree, those who are ignorant about hunting don't understand its importance to the advancement of wildlife.