Two Cops Hold Down 110 lb College Student, While Third Cop Releases K-9

[Don]

Um, maybe loggers and fishermen should dress in black battle fatigues and face masks, carry German sub-machine guns, bundle up in body armor and ride around in tanks and armored vehicles to intimidate and condition innocent people to live in fear of them?

The militarized police state we see growing all around us (it's international) isn't about fighting crime or protecting us from evil terrorists. It's to condition us all to live under a state of tyranny and love it and the people doing the intimidating.

So far it seems to be working just fine for the most part.

The bottom line is still, a cops' job isn't nearly as dangerous as they make it out be. "Oh we have it so tough so you have to give us more money, more power and more control over your lives!"

Where's it end Don? How much more money power and control do we have to give them to make their job easier and safer?

We could scrap the constitution altogether that would make their job so much easier. We could all have RFID chips planted in us and every product on the market so they can keep track of us and our belongings 24/7 that would make their job much safer by being able to know ahead of time who has a deadly set of fingernail clippers on them.

Where does it end? Ask the people who lived under the Stasi police state. That's where it ends.

A cop's life is no more or less important than anyone else's and I get tired of being told they are day after day.

Just won't admit it, will ya? We could dress them in pastel pink and have them drive clown cars, and we'd still be asking them to put themselves between us and some drug-crazed thug with a gun who won't even remember how many people he shot at last night. When was the last time you asked a logger or a fisherman to do that?

Do I think they need to wear military-style clothing and drive up-armored vehicles? In my personal opinion, no. But I'm not on the city council or in the decision process that authorizes those purchases. Ask those local governments why they're allowing it.

Til then, let's look at what job we're asking them to do, shall we?

 

[poncho]

Just won't admit it, will ya? We could dress them in pastel pink and have them drive clown cars, and we'd still be asking them to put themselves between us and some drug-crazed thug with a gun who won't even remember how many people he shot at last night. When was the last time you asked a logger or a fisherman to do that?

Do I think they need to wear military-style clothing and drive up-armored vehicles? In my personal opinion, no. But I'm not on the city council or in the decision process that authorizes those purchases. Ask those local governments why they're allowing it.

Til then, let's look at what job we're asking them to do, shall we?

I got a better idea why don't we think about it in the proper context instead, shall we?

I don't know about you Don but I have never asked any of them to put their life on the line for me. They volunteered to do it.

They wanted the job. No one forced them to take it. And they knew before going in that it might be dangerous. So to set here and listen to them constantly whine about how dangerous their job is leaves me with just one thing to say to them.

If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.

 

[Don]

I got a better idea why don't we think about it in the proper context instead, shall we?

I don't know about you Don but I have never asked any of them to put their life on the line for me. They volunteered to do it.

They wanted the job. No one forced them to take it. And they knew before going in that it might be dangerous. So to set here and listen to them constantly whine about how dangerous their job is leaves me with just one thing to say to them.

If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.

Actually, Poncho, they volunteered to do a job that our governments (federal, state, and local) decided were needed and necessary. The governments, on behalf of and representing the people for which they are responsible, then advertised that they needed people to do these jobs. That's when these men and women volunteered.

You want to put it in proper context, start with the base reason, not with the people taking the jobs. If you don't want police, petition your local government to do away with the police department. It's worked for at least one city.

 

[poncho]

Actually, Poncho, they volunteered to do a job that our governments (federal, state, and local) decided were needed and necessary. The governments, on behalf of and representing the people for which they are responsible, then advertised that they needed people to do these jobs. That's when these men and women volunteered.

You want to put it in proper context, start with the base reason, not with the people taking the jobs. If you don't want police, petition your local government to do away with the police department. It's worked for at least one city.

And they knew before hand that it might be dangerous when they volunteered.

If they want to feel safe on the job find another job with less risk involved. Just quit all the whining.

Yeah I put it in perspective then you tried to take it back out.

You said and I quote . . . "If you don't want police, petition your local government to do away with the police department."

Hyperbole? Really Don?

I never thought of you as a person who would use such a devise to win an argument. Learn something new every day I reckon.

I never said "I don't want the police".

What I have been saying is they volunteered to take a job they knew before hand may involve risks so they have no legitimate reason to keep whining about the risks they volunteered to take on "our" behalf.

And there is no legitimate reason they have to look and act like an occupying military force to do their job satisfactorily. And there is absolutely no legitimate reason for allowing them to violate our constitutional protections and liberties to make their job easier.

I guess the real question here is how many more constitutional protections and liberties are you willing to give up to make it easier and safer for a cop to do his/her job?

Do I have to go into a long drawn out history lesson to remind you of what happens when there is no limits on governmental power?