Two Interpretations of 2 Thess. 2:13-14

[BobRyan]

You are confusing victory with control. I know you think you believe that god will "win" in the end. But that idea has absolutely NOTHING to do with sovereignty. Sovereignty is not eventual victory. It is present control.

For the small human-god the way to control the beings in the game is to make them all robots - to control their every move.

But for infinite God - well in that case He can choose the "whosoever will" model of free will. He need not take mind-control of his opponent.

In the free will model God can "Come to His OWN" and yet a result can be "His OWN received Him not" - John 1. If that happens under the master-robot-maker model then the robot maker model is sloppy or fallible. Neither of which is true of God - which means the suggestion of the master-robot-maker is disproven.

It can only happen under a free will model where God sovereignly chooses the Free will system from the start.

Master robot-maker would never allow Lucifer to fail but if he slipped up and forgot to code for that eventuallity - he simply ZAPS Lucifer into "Repent mode" or else "ZAPS" Lucifer into brain-dead mode.

Saves Him 1/3 of the angels.

Saves Him the loss of Adam and Eve.

Saves Him the loss - of the lost on Earth.

Saves Him the death of His Son to rescue fallen man.

Again - Calvinism's master-robot-model suggestion is disproven.

AT least for the 4 and 5 pointer suggestions.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Rippon]

Not "I will burst down the door of those FEW that I arbitrarily select out in true partial fashion".

You continue in your blasphemy. You can't seem to restrict yourself to truthful representations of what Calvinists believe but have to rely on gross lies instead.

Does the Lord do anything in a careless way?! How could you stoop so low to attribute that evil idea to any other believer?

You need to deal with what Calvinists say,not the straw-filled deliberate falsehoods which you enjoy so much in your 25,000 plus posts.

 

[Rippon]

For the small human-god the way to control the beings in the game is to make them all robots - to control their every move.

Master robot-maker would never allow Lucifer to fail but if he slipped up and forgot to code for that eventuallity - he simply ZAPS Lucifer into "Repent mode" or else "ZAPS" Lucifer into brain-dead mode.


Again - Calvinism's master-robot-model suggestion is disproven.

You post absolute rubbish. Who started this robot nonsense first --you or DHK? Both of you need to stop with the absurd and interact with what Calvinists actually teach --the B-I-B-L-E.

And please stop denigrating the Lord as is your custom Bob.

 

[preacher4truth]

You post absolute rubbish. Who started this robot nonsense first --you or DHK? Both of you need to stop with the absurd and interact with what Calvinists actually teach --the B-I-B-L-E.

And please stop denigrating the Lord as is your custom Bob.

I'd expect nothing less from a dissident religion who denies Christs deity:

Clear Word Bible - "In contrast to these ungodly men is the Lord Jesus Christ, also called Michael, the archangel in charge of the entire angelic host. When He was challenged by Satan about His intentions to resurrect Moses, He didn't come against Satan with a blistering attack nor did he belittle him. He simply said, 'God rejects your claim to his body.'"

The lying false prophet EGW also claimed Christ is Michael. There are more errors that are clear but they'll by their own deception find a false loophole out of them.

SDA is not Christianity as no true Christian church denies the deity of Christ. 'Having a form of godliness (law keeping PLUS Christ) but denying the power thereof'...

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Okay this thread has grown to eleven pages. What has been said with coolness of mind and temper has been said. It is now closed.