Because you say so? Biblical support?
That would be no because the Bible says so. The Biblical support is the verse. Do you need me to quote chapter and verse for you?
He's speaking to saved individuals about what could happen to themselves. What more support do you need?
Christ would never tell the saved He never knew them.
That's sure not what Scripture tells us. Some will cry Lord, Lord on that day and Christ will tell them He did not know them. If we deny Christ, Christ will deny us. Those verses are again spoken to saved people in regard to themselves not lost people. I know it just slaps church tradition in the face, but we can either believe the Bible or we can make the Bible say what we want it to say. I will continue to choose letting the Bible say what the Bible says.
Be VERY careful what You say Christ would never do.
Amen!
Those He tells 'I never knew you' were never saved.
According to you not to Scripture. Again I will trust Scripture.
Way to back your claim up with Scripture Rev. Mitchell. That's pathetic that you would come on here and just lash out at someone just becuase they don't agree with you, but that's your signature. You can't defend your own position so you just speak evil of those that don't agree with you.
Come back when you can deal with Scripture.
I will never hear that, because I have a daily relationship with my savior. He knows me now... and if he ever says he doesn't he would be a liar.... And God cannot lie, sooooo I will never hear that.
If you all would stop trying to combine the kingdom and eternal salvation these things could make a whole lot more sense, but as long as you equate the kingdom with eternal salvation it's not going to happen.
Of course He knows us. He knows everyone. So is He lying when He tells a lost person that He doesn't know them even though He really does, because He knows everyone and everything. So is He a liar? Of course not. Context...context...context.
Works is the context of these not knowing a person passages. He's not denying someone as to them being a child, but as to that person being a faithful servant.
I feel sorry for all those that are still trying to work their way to Heaven
Tim with this statement you obviously don't have a clue as to what we have been talking about.
because if it depends on them, they will split HEll wide open, and then will be thrown into the LOF.
Wow. . . so now we've gone from false prophets, to we aren't even saved. Boy that is pretty presumptious of you to claim to know whether or not we are saved, especially since everyone of us have faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, Who died and shed His blood as a substitute for us a sinner. Awfully bold of you to say a person that is biblically saved is actually not.
is like someone pushing a car uphill, when all they have to do is get in and let it take them up the hill.
Well in a way that is correct, because all we have to do is die to self and allow the Spirit to work in us. That's what we have been saying all along. We aren't trying to work our way to heaven as you falsey presume.
The work for entrance to the kingdom is done on our behalf if we die to self, the problem is that not all Christians are dying to self, but we have a large portion that is still living their lives for them and not for the Lord. That's what we are talking about.
Christ did the work needed to purchase our salvation on the cross.
Except that is not the works in view in the book of James. So the rest of your post holds not Scriptural water or backing.
That is past tense... that means that since we are washed, we will get in the kingdom.....
Again you are cherry picking a verse of Scripture and trying to apply it to all Christians.
What about the verse of Scripture where Jesus tells Peter that if Peter (a saved individual) doesn't allow Jesus to wash him he will have no part with Him?
Peter says then wash me all over, but Jesus said you have already been washed, but have need of a partial washing.
The washing is not over until we die or until the Lord returns. And guess what? If we don't allow the Lord to wash us then we will have no part "wtih" Him, not "in" Him.
It's just a shame that we can't let Scripture speak for Itself.
