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two types of salvation

ray Marshall

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pinoybaptist said:
Brother Ray:

As one PB to another, I would say thank you for your desire to rightly divide the word of God in the matter of salvation, but most folks here do not understand the concept.
It is one scale in their eyes that God had not yet removed.
I have time and again tried to point to the same direction but to no avail.
Most of the folks here are seminary-trained and therefore echo what they have been taught in their schools by professor who echo what they learned in their time and so on.
Understanding this concept takes time, and direction from the Holy Spirit.
Most folks on this board, even those who say they hold to the Doctrine of Grace, call Christ Redeemer, but I do not think they truly understand that as Redeemer Jesus Christ did in fact finish the redemption of His people at the cross here in time, and that there is none of His who will be born who are still under the curse of God because of the blood He has shed on the cross, and that all will be brought to regeneration by the Holy Spirit in His own time without means.
Therefore, knowing this, since He is the One who set this plan into motion Himself, Jesus Christ sent out His apostles to preach the good news of finished salvation, and to save as many as they (not us) can reach from the ungodly life, religions, and practices they were immersed in, and the apostles did a good job, too, under the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Most folks on this board do not understand that not all will be saved in a gospelly way, since human preachers do not have the ability to be everywhere at all times, and since human preachers do not know who God's elect are and where they are.

Hello to my brother (Pinpbaptist)
It's good to hear from you and one that has experience of the love and joy under the hearing of the Primitive Baptist ministries. I won't to thank you for writing to me. It is true that others that have commented on this thread and I wasn't aware that they thought the topic was out in left field. I wasn't aware that they had not been enlighted in the same way that you and I had been. Maybe it isn't their fault. . I have heard that in preaching in among their churches, they are used to hearing a choir singing and about a 20 minute discourse is what I have been told that is about all they can tolerate. I know these fellow brethern are children of GOD and they desire to do right as sincere as they can. My prayers and thoughts can be with them. When I started this thread, I meant no harm to any one. I have been hammered quiet hard by some of their comments. We, the Primitive Baptist have had our "Top of the mountain and down in the valley during our prilgrimage in this world and we need to be in the valley so that when we are brought up on high, we can be very spiritally up-lifted." I think I will withdraw my comments on my thread now. It'seems that I have hit a rock wall and nothing more needs to be discussed. I will be looking for you on this BB and may you and your family truely be blessed.
 

webdog

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Ray, do you believe a believer can be eternally saved while spending the millenial kingdom period in hell?
 

annsni

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ray Marshall said:
Hello to my brother (Pinpbaptist)
It's good to hear from you and one that has experience of the love and joy under the hearing of the Primitive Baptist ministries. I won't to thank you for writing to me. It is true that others that have commented on this thread and I wasn't aware that they thought the topic was out in left field. I wasn't aware that they had not been enlighted in the same way that you and I had been. Maybe it isn't their fault. . I have heard that in preaching in among their churches, they are used to hearing a choir singing and about a 20 minute discourse is what I have been told that is about all they can tolerate. I know these fellow brethern are children of GOD and they desire to do right as sincere as they can. My prayers and thoughts can be with them. When I started this thread, I meant no harm to any one. I have been hammered quiet hard by some of their comments. We, the Primitive Baptist have had our "Top of the mountain and down in the valley during our prilgrimage in this world and we need to be in the valley so that when we are brought up on high, we can be very spiritally up-lifted." I think I will withdraw my comments on my thread now. It'seems that I have hit a rock wall and nothing more needs to be discussed. I will be looking for you on this BB and may you and your family truely be blessed.

Wow. What a slap in the face with a candy covered bat!

I find this the most offensive comment from you:

"I have heard that in preaching in among their churches, they are used to hearing a choir singing and about a 20 minute discourse is what I have been told that is about all they can tolerate."

So all of the commenters on this thread are used to hearing a choir singing and a 20 minute discourse?? Umm - think again. Yesterday in church we ALL sang worship to our Lord Jesus Christ (no choir in our church) and then sat for an hour long sermon on Romans 9 and why Israel rejected the Messiah. How about you?

I don't think I've ever been as offended by a "brother" in all of my life.

There's a lot more I can say but I'd be kicked off the board, most likely. I'll be praying for you to learn the truth and the love of the bretheren.
 

webdog

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ray marshall said:
I think I will withdraw my comments on my thread now. It'seems that I have hit a rock wall and nothing more needs to be discussed.
Well, since the author of the OP has stated he will not participate in his own thread again, I say it should be closed. If people want to read up on Millenial Exclusion, they can go to the archives.
 

annsni

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webdog said:
Well, since the author of the OP has stated he will not participate in his own thread again, I say it should be closed. If people want to read up on Millenial Exclusion, they can go to the archives.

Is that what the "other" salvation is about? That would make more sense in the fact that it makes NO sense. LOL
 
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