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U.S. Senator Says He Would Practice Civil Disobedience If Obama Repeals Abortion 'Con

Dragoon68

Active Member
Crabtownboy said:
Seems y'all miss my point entirely. Just because something is law does not make it just or right. If that were true than the Nazi's could not have been punished.

However, even if a law is unjust or wrong, as long as it is a law and a person breaks it they bear responsibility to the government for breaking that law ... until it, the law, is changed.

In time the law may be changed and no one would then suffer, justly or unjustly.

Being willing to suffer the consequences is a way of attempting to have the law changed.

Hope this makes my point more understandable.

I have a question for you: Do you stand firmly against abortion and would you, if a doctor or nurse, oppose pro-abortion civil law in order to uphold God's law?
 

JustChristian

New Member
Bro. Curtis said:
An apology for what ? I don't agree with much of what Bush did, but that looks like a good move. You are the one repeating the lie that Bush didn't do anything to stop abortion. His work on late-term-partial-birth abortion & his efforts against embryonic stem-cell research deserve support, and frankly, I cannot see why you can't bring yourself to admit that. And the "save the earth from evil coal burning" movement is a bunch of leftist hooey.

Apology ? In yer dreams, Mr. Follow his way of peace not war.
You LIED when you said that my post was incorrect. That's why you should apologize. Of course I don't expect a party hack like you to actually apologize.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Well then I won't let you down. No apology coming, Mr. Follow his way of peace not war.

You lied when you said Bush did nothing about abortion. The facts are well documented.

BTW, you say nothing changed under Bush, then you say he did change something. Which is it ?

And for which party am I hacking ?
 

tinytim

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targus said:
You really do need to work on the reading comprehension thing.

The subject of tinytim's sentence is "your post" - not "people who disagree" with him.

Thanks targus...

Of course I don't want people killed who disagree with me....

I love my wife!:laugh:

But some POSTS should never be conceived...
Even some I make...

Why, I disagree with myself a lot...
 

JustChristian

New Member
Bro. Curtis said:
An apology for what ? I don't agree with much of what Bush did, but that looks like a good move. You are the one repeating the lie that Bush didn't do anything to stop abortion. His work on late-term-partial-birth abortion & his efforts against embryonic stem-cell research deserve support, and frankly, I cannot see why you can't bring yourself to admit that. And the "save the earth from evil coal burning" movement is a bunch of leftist hooey.

Apology ? In yer dreams, Mr. Follow his way of peace not war.
No, I'm not repeating a general statement. I'm providing the facts about the specific rule in question.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Just Christian said:
No, I'm not repeating a general statement. I'm providing the facts about the specific rule in question.

What facts, about what specific rule ? That Bush didn't do anything about abortion ? Your own post disproves you.
 

Spinach

New Member
As some of the posts at the bottom of the page suggest, perhaps this is indeed political posturing. Stranger things have happened...
 

ccrobinson

Active Member
The so-called “right of conscience” rule allows workers at more than 584,000 U.S. medical facilities that receive federal funding to refuse to provide patient care that involves procedures with which they disagree.

The only issue I have with what Bush did in this regard is the timing, right before he left office. There's absolutely no reason he couldn't have done this 8 years ago, but he chose to do it right before he left office, suggesting that his motive for doing it was primarily to cause trouble for Obama.
 

Dragoon68

Active Member
ccrobinson said:
... suggesting that his motive for doing it was primarily to cause trouble for Obama.

On the other hand, maybe it was because he knew it would likely never be done under Obama.
 

JustChristian

New Member
Revmitchell said:
1. He did not call you a liar

2. He owes no apology

3. You continue to refuse to admit the truth about Republicans and abortion.

4. You false assertion has been debunked on this baord.
Read the article instead of continuing to look <pa deleted-LE>.
 
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JustChristian

New Member
Bro. Curtis said:
What facts, about what specific rule ? That Bush didn't do anything about abortion ? Your own post disproves you.
We're talking specifically about preventing medical professionals from being forced to abort the unborn if they believe that the practice is immoral. Read the OP.

U.S. Senator Says He Would Practice Civil Disobedience If Obama Repeals Abortion 'Conscience Clause'
Monday, March 02, 2009
By Josiah Ryan, Staff Writer


Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) (Photo courtesy of Coburn's Web site)
(CNSNews.com) – Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who is also an OB/GYN, told CNSNews.com on Friday that many medical practitioners, including himself, will go to prison before agreeing to engage in medical practices they morally oppose, such as abortion.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Praise God for that bill. Sounds like Bush did do something about abortion, after all.
 

ccrobinson

Active Member
Dragoon68 said:
On the other hand, maybe it was because he knew it would likely never be done under Obama.

Perhaps, but, again, he could have done it at any time before his last month in office, and he chose to wait till then.
 

blackbird

Active Member
Palatka51 said:
So Rosa Parks was justly thrown in jail for and act of disobedience by not sitting at the back of the bus?

What law did Ms Parks disobey?? Was there a law on the books in the state of Alabama and in the city of Montgomery that barred blacks from being seated in the front of the bus???

Can anyone here on the board post the law(in an official manner) that Ms Parks broke??
 
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